Fantasy Diskussion - Blood Bowl - Die neue Edition

[Warmaster]

Update - Dezember 2016

Die englischen FAQs/Errata sowie die übrigen Team-Regeln

https://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/Regelerrata

Neuigkeiten und Gerüchte (alt):

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YTOElLyd...qWbLJ4L5lUNQAQoyy2_OfQCLcB/s1600/P1220205.JPG

http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/5/20/7cc84feeb8e68dce936e39798c5d90f4_5394.jpg


Die ersten Fotos der Grundbox-Gussrahmen - Menschen und Orks (Quelle: The Imperial Truth auf Twitter)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/7/18/486542566f16fea71b61e033db6f619a_5394.jpg

http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/7/18/63820a756e0ec9fd92d37a7340e741fd_5394.jpg


Menschen und Ork Teams aus dem Starter

http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/7/17/aeb6b01c7135630a2d6f0f4512dd445c_5394.jpg

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EggpYAl2...L1nsr0GT5zFbF_5nrFKUwACLcB/s1600/P1220415.JPG

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/FW_Forge_World_Open_Day_36.jpg

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wLhyLhZVSdw/V4vm188V1YI/AAAAAAAAN-8/gtomBm1DJtw54_XugP8B0Ys63KXsCz1bgCLcB/s1600/P1220414.JPG


Release der Grundbox: Ende 2016


Erste Fotos vom Regelbuch (Quelle: The Imperial Truth auf Twitter)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/7/18/e10d5c99f2e51dab06921628fab353d5_5394.jpg

http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2016/7/18/600a4dc88ea1f0023ccc1a0557d06176_5394.jpg


Die Bälle (sie lassen sich in Löcher in der Base stecken) und Würfel aus der Grundbox

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A6xvT9pB...fIoaIJHrD1maRUzDDcU4RwCLcB/s1600/P1220446.JPG


Schablonen (Testguss)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GzUE08dl...d-L3Ut2qW65ROMx7eq0rOACLcB/s1600/P1210978.JPG




Weitere Releases:

Death Zone - Season 1 (Erweiterung)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4vXxCQDm...RhUUaYghLu57yXtL6WK6JACLcB/s1600/P1220026.JPG


Special Play-Karten

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fOtXjVCGEco/V4vmQL_PpcI/AAAAAAAAN-Q/Mn_eofL0MyIYgc2imz0peva7-3CGijiIQCLcB/s1600/P1220445.JPG


Teams in Plastik (4 weitere)

Zwerge (Wip)

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BnvUGNRvsIg/V4vmZ2gWQwI/AAAAAAAAN-c/HaUxauATri8WmlfosrjfCxu1rxiVKDsiACLcB/s1600/P1220443.JPG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ov5wMlTH...YNxhcN-0ypx6EqDV-x4SGQCLcB/s1600/P1220213.JPG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uoTSqaqv...FrzWDWfoNr3HK7SdS5b9MgCLcB/s1600/P1220439.JPG


Skaven (Wip)

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Eg9Izobj...8vtGQwajG-P29nbi6EIxLACLcB/s1600/P1220209.JPG

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YXb1e0Uf...s5cg2gtgG-ckdD9hb8_kzwCLcB/s1600/P1220214.JPG

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7sAn2Jpv...neH0grATq6aoIQnKmSGm6ACLcB/s1600/P1220444.JPG




Infos von Games Workshop/Forgeworld auf ihren Events

http://recalcitrantdaze.blogspot.de/2016/05/warhammer-fest-2016-part-one-blood-bowl.html

Saturday, 14 May 2016

Warhammer Fest 2016 - Part One - Blood Bowl.

I will do a few posts covering today's event, starting with Blood Bowl...

Had a number of conversations with the team, especially Andy Hoare who put up with me going back about four times (though one conversation was mainly to do with Adeptus Titanicus). Thankfully he is a man with a lot of patience.

First up what I can remember:

The release is hoped to be end of the year.

Box set contains the first two teams, Orcs and Human in plastic.
The pitch is double sided with a Human pitch on one side and an Orc pitch on the other.
The rules have not been changed, they are the rules which has been around for a while now.

In total there will be six teams in plastic (Human, Orc, Skaven, Elf, Nurgle and Dwarf). Other teams will follow in resin. There is also likely to be resin conversion sets.

There will be more pitches which will also be double sided (Dwarf/Skaven & Elf/Nurgle) with more possible later including tournament specific ones.

They are looking at neoprene pitches but as yet they don't know, it comes down to cost and if they can get them in large enough quantities and other factors but it is something they would like to have.

Several expansions are mapped out including the first one covering seven more teams and league rules.

If all goes well Dungeon Bowl will also see the light of the day.

Pushkin - Warseer

I had a really nice chat with Andy Hoare about blood bowl. This is done and will be out before Christmas, the models and the sprues were all done and they look great.

Humans and orcs are in the box, and then skaven and dwarves will be next. The pitch is reversible and has a human pitch one side and an Orc one the next side. Once they get skaven and dwarves out done they're going to do a similar double sided pitch for them. In terms of other plastic box sets they are going to do an elf team and one other team. Everything else will be resin. Special characters are in the works, but rules for some of them are already done.

Xanthos - DakkaDakka

I asked about rules changes yesterday. The core rules are unchanged, but the rules for perpetual leagues have been tweaked quite a bit, as they didn't really work before. Also they said that there will be two or maybe three special play decks.

The four first star players will be Griff Oberwald, The Mighty Zug, Morg'n'Thorg and Varag Ghoulchewer. Zug and Morg are finished and look fantastic.

He said that even with the last versions of star players we got from GW being fantastic sculpts, their new ones are even better! They are planning to release these alongside the main game in December.

 

[Cremator]

Danke für die super Zusammenfassung! Ich habe Blood Bowl (sowie Space Hulk) mit meinem Bruder gespielt, noch bevor ich etwas von Warhammer & Tabletop wusste. Das Spiel weckt in mir nostalgische Erinnerungen und da ich auch das Setting super finde, ist die Box so gut wie gekauft!

 

[Warmaster]

Gern! Ich find es sehr angenehm daß die Designer so offen sind, das macht die Wartezeit zwar nicht kürzer aber wenigstens interessant.

 

[Duncin]

Gibt es schon irgendeine Infos darüber, wieviel die Starterbox wahrscheinlich kosten wird?

 

[Mshrak]

Geh von 100-150€ aus

 

[Warmaster]

Offiziell wurde noch nichts gesagt. 100 EUR wie Assassinorum war mein ursprünglicher Gedanke aber im DakkaDakka Forum gehen manche von weniger aus um es als Einstiegsspiel zu vermarkten, ähnlich Dark Vengeance. Da bin ich doch skeptisch, und sortiere Blood Bowl eher bei den anderen GW Boxed Games ein, wie Mshrak schon schrieb 100-150 EUR, und ein ähnlicher Preis für die 1. Erweiterungsbox Death Zone.

Andererseits wären 70-80 EUR ein Kampfpreis der Blood Bowl gut täte und wohl GW nicht in den Ruin treiben dürfte 😛 Ich gehe davon aus daß der Dezember WD das Spiel enthalten wird und GW uns eventuell schon früher, ähnlich Lost Patrol, einen Preorder-Termin nennt.

Ich rechne mit 200 EUR für Grundbox und Erweiterung. Da ich bei Läden die Rabatt bieten kaufe, dürfte das vermutlich reichen.

 

[Duncin]

Alles klar hatte natürlich gehofft, dass der gute alte Starterbox-Bonus zieht wie in Richtung Black Reach oder Angriff auf den Schädelpass, aber vielleicht sind diese Zeiten ja vorbei :S
(und selbst verglichen mit denen würde sich die Miniaturenanzahl halbieren bzw. vierteln...)

Zur Not wird es die lang benötigte Motivation ein paar alte Warhammer Fantasy Orks zu vandalisieren. xD

 

[Warmaster]

BrookM berichtet im DakkaDakka Forum vom Forgeworld European Day 2016

Had a lovely chat with Andy Hoare, who is in charge of the project and Mark Bedford, who did most of the excellent concept art, they're hoping for a December 2016 release, but he was quick to rightly add that he's in charge of everything but the price and the release date.

Also interesting to note is that this project was a bit of a rush, as they cranked out the miniatures for this one in NINE MONTHS, whereas it usually takes up to two years for them to work things out from concept to final model.

Old heroes will also return, some as coaches, some as players. Amongst those mentioned are good old Grif and LORD BORAK! There was even talk of bringing back the advice column!

The box on display by the way is a complete product, not a rough sample or a thrown together concept, this was the first boxed set of their production run.

Dwarfs and Skaven will also be plastics (except for the Death Roller, which will be in resin, complete with a beer swilling Dwarf), everything else will be resin. If a team proves successful enough in sales, it will be turned into plastics further down the road.

The rules are unchanged, maybe one or two things altered for speed (like replacing the random chit to determine which player is randomly overcome with something by a custom D16), but they are intact and the same as the last version GW put out for download a few years ago.

And yes, if you like it, PLEASE DO SUPPORT THEM WITH YOUR WALLET, because if this proves to be a success they will most certainly pour more resources into this.

Old models can still be used, its just this time around that they're really going all-out on sculpting models dedicated to the setting, explicitly stating that this is not part of the Warhammer Fantasy or Age of Sigmar settings, but another one altogether.

As for teams, not much I heard on that sadly, though I highly doubt anything will be invalidated, as they mentioned also wanting to run leagues built around older models as "historical" matches from days gone by.

Oh, there will also be a free app (with in app purchases of course) where you can easily run your own leagues and tournaments.

From what we were told, the app will have a wifi / blue tooth feature that allows it to link up with other devices that also have the app and share league information with one another, making it easier to keep track of everything.

The Nurgle team will be fun, the catcher art that Mark showed off had a large gaping mouth in the gut for catching balls, instead of a large glove or mitt like most normal catchers.

The boxed set includes a double sided pitch, one is the classic green field, the other was.. brown if I remember correctly?

They will do more types of pitch as more teams become available, so maybe a change in material will happen as well then?

While we're talking about the pitch, it was pointed out that the Death Roller has the same width as a lane of grass on the game board, this was done as a tongue in cheek reference that the device originally was a lawn mower first and foremost.

Finally, the art of the Goblins shown on the box cover so far has not been final, Mark Bedford did some new sketches and the upcoming Gobbo team will have special headgear, which when looked at from the side, will make their heads look like crescent moons, a classic Gobbo symbol.

People who do not like this feature or want to make their teams look different, no worries, the models have been designed with customisation in mind, plus the idea that upgrade kits or different teams will be sold in the future with different headgear or equipment to make them stand out from the rest.

One last thing I remembered, I'm not sure if this will also be in the rulebook, but Andy tracked down the original artist of the first edition art and asked him to do art for the game, which may, depending on how one feels about it, give it all a very nice retro look.

We also found out that the Facebook posts done in the style of Jim and Bob are done by two people, who each assume one of the characters and have a bit of banter together. They'll make a return to announcing things soon enough, as one of the two is now on a honeymoon IIRC.

They can't do them all in one go, they are going for the core choices (humans and orks) plus the other popular ones (dwarves and skaven) first before moving on to others.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/270/685799.page#8936659

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Und noch einmal der Link zum Battle Bunnies Bericht mit Fotos

http://battlebunnies.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/blood-bowl-pics.html

 

[ChrisM]

Die Frage ist eher: Wie siehts am Ende mit den Regeln aus, da es schon das wirklich gut funktionierende LRB der Community gibt.

 

[Kodos der Henker]

Soweit wurde bestätigt das es die CRP Regeln in unveränderter Form sind.

 

[Warmaster]

Black Library hatte den Shop-Eintrag wieder offline genommen aber Atia postete eine Kopie der Seite zur Ende November erscheinenden Box bestehend aus vier 'alten' BB-Romanen in einer Collector's Edition

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1211

 

[Otto-Schaedelklopfa]

GW hat auf der Spielemesse in Essen seit langer Zeit wieder einen Stand, einen sehr großen sogar und promotet dort vor allem BloodBowl.

 

[Warmaster]

Ui, haben sie etwas zum Releasetermin gesagt?

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Okay gerade gesehen, Die Spiel öffnet erst noch


Fotos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/330/685799.page#8958144

Die neue Blood Bowl Webseite

www.bloodbowl.com

 

[Mshrak]

Das Ding wird so reissenden Absatz finden..... Wahnsinn was die da wieder draus gemacht haben....

 

[Jack of Spades]

Bin schon begeistert, dass bei GW jemand die Fortbildung "Marketing 101" besucht hat.

 

[Dark Eldar]

Sehr positiv das ganze. Das läßt mich als nicht Blood Bowl interessierten, aber auch auf Necromunda hoffen.

 

[Kenechki]

Oh, toll! Ich werde wohl auf der SPIEL sein, sollte sich Gelegenheit ergeben Fotos zu machen, werde ich sie dann am Wochenende hier posten.

 

[zonz1984]

Ich warte schon auf einen Release Termin. Mit BB hat alles angefangen was GW betrifft und hier endet es auch wieder. Dafür geb ich dann gerne wieder Geld aus.

 

[Warmaster]

Das Skaven Team ist auch fertig und auf der Blood Bowl Webseite in einem eigenen Video zu sehen. Alternativ das 2. Video hier https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1225

Zuletzt haben wir wenig von der Erweiterung Death Zone gehört, laut FW sollte sie zeitnah mit der Grundbox erscheinen und zwei weitere Plastik-Teams und die Liga-Regeln enthalten. Bisher war auch nichts gegenteiliges zu hören und das Skaven-Video könnte der erste Hinweis darauf sein. Da im Regelbuch, wie im Unboxing zu sehen war, nur Regeln für Orks und Menschen enthalten sind, kann Death Zone auch nicht viel später kommen.

Ich bin gespannt wann GW die anderen Modelle aus Death Zone und die Clampack Plastik-Starspieler vorstellt.

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Die Regeln sind weitgehend die alten, bekannt aus dem letzten Living Rulebook. Die neuen Boxen bieten jeweils Stadien+Coaching Zones der zwei (oder mehr) enthaltenen Teams. Im Grundset Orks und Menschen, in Death Zone wahrscheinlich Skaven und Zwerge.

 

[zonz1984]

War nicht mal davon die Rede das Deathzone zeitgleich erscheinen wird? Wäre mir nur Recht, ich will ein Zwergenteam. Und neue Stadien+Coaching Zones klingt gut, gibt mehr Atmosphäre. Hoffentlich treibt das den Preis dann nicht zu sehr in die Höhe.