hi jungs!ich denke der titel sagt alles hab in der suchmaschine nix gefunden!
also ich wär sehr erfreut über antworten!!
Vielen dank
MfG
Antharius
also ich wär sehr erfreut über antworten!!
Vielen dank
MfG
Antharius
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Wie baut & bemalt ihr Banner?
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also am einfachsten wäre (dickes) papier als werkstoff und dann gw (oder was auch immer) farben drauf. durch die farben erhält das papier eine gewisse festigkeit und man kann es in die richtige form biegen. für kleine wimpel (zb an lanzen) ist das gar nicht mal so schlecht.
besser ist natürlich ein schön modelliertes banner aus greenstuff. das ist aber logischerweise schwieriger zu bauen...
besser ist natürlich ein schön modelliertes banner aus greenstuff. das ist aber logischerweise schwieriger zu bauen...
Ich hab incht wirklich viele Banner gemacht....
Aber ich kann zumindest das wesentliche zu sagen... 😉
1. bereits farbig auf dickem Papier ausdrucken (Den Bannerstab kann man dann nach belieben gestalten; so hab ich auch das Banner meines Symbiontenkultes gemacht, auf der Spitze ist ein Blood Angels Helm aufgespießt, an der einen Seite hängt ein langes Pergament auf der anden ein Kopf der an einer Kette hängt)
2. Vorlagen ausdrucken und selber malen
3. s.u.
Aber ich kann zumindest das wesentliche zu sagen... 😉
1. bereits farbig auf dickem Papier ausdrucken (Den Bannerstab kann man dann nach belieben gestalten; so hab ich auch das Banner meines Symbiontenkultes gemacht, auf der Spitze ist ein Blood Angels Helm aufgespießt, an der einen Seite hängt ein langes Pergament auf der anden ein Kopf der an einer Kette hängt)
2. Vorlagen ausdrucken und selber malen
3. s.u.
Aus dem Community-Forum der englischen GW-Seite hab ich noch diesen schönen Tipp zu Stoff-Bannern. Werde das selber demnächst für meine beiden Armeestandarten-Träger anwenden, denke ich. 🙂
Ist halt auf englisch. -_-
Cloth Banners - by kathrynloch . (0 Replies). MOD-InquisitorRicho[]. 1/11/2004 18:19 (1/11/2004 18:19)
Cloth banners are very simple. Number one, use simple
fabrics...a cotton fabric with a good tight weave.
They are usually cheap and readily available on the
scrap table at your local fabric store or even
Wal-Mart.
No matter the color, you can usually get the best
result from that basic cotton blend, either by
coloring it with paint or dye...rather than buying the
color you want with polyester in it.
Polyester, since its basically plastic in and of
itself, gets nasty if you are trying to work with it.
For doing banners, please avoid polyester...but laser
burns are the exception.
Take a swatch of fabric and using seamstress chalk
(basic chalk with a point) or seamstress pens (there
are pens for fabric that either wash out or fade after
a couple of hours). Draw first the outline of your
banner, the general shape. Is it square,
triangle...double triangle...so on and so forth. I
usually make a dotted line where the banner will
attach to the pole and extend it outward to wrap
around the pole it's hanging on. I also make little
nips with scissors, top and bottom, to note the end of
the fabric after the extension to wrap around a
pole...you'll see why later.
If you want to get really detailed with this...do the
same thing but make your measurements to wrap around a
rope (thread or leather) instead of a pole.
Once I get that drawn, I usually go ahead and paint
before cutting the piece out. This includes any
heraldry...the symbols...I want. But I can't draw
worth a crap, you say. Simple, there are many examples
in books that you love...create a stencil. Just create
an outline by tracing the heraldry and color it in
from there.
I've discovered, being a part of this forum for a very
short time, many of you think you are not artists,
when in fact you are exactly that. And very good ones
too! Come on my friend, dare to be different and try
something new, you may be surprised at the results.
Okay, soap box aside, when I get the piece I want on
one side, I hold the fabric up to good light and trace
the outline I just made on the opposite side. This can
be rather tricky at times but just make light marks
and you'll get it. I then paint the other side.
Now...as to paints...fabric paints are the best...they
even have fabric pens now. But those old delta paints
work awesome as well.
What look do I want? Brand new regiment, we want it
crisp and well. So don't wash it at all. If you want
one that has seen major battles? Don't cut up that
scrap yet...throw the entire thing in the washing
machine, on cold but not by itself (I throw it in with
my jeans) for a cycle. And be sure to dry...drying
helps the aging process.
Okay, on brand new appearance, no washing, I trim
neatly and apply according to those measurement marks
I made.
Now with wanting used standards...Washing and drying
helps fade colors but after cutting I grab some ends
of thread and fuzz them out. Go with your tastes
here...but don't yank on long threads otherwise you
may pull out a major piece of your banner. If a thread
is too long, trim it off with sharp scissors.
Why was I so adamant about cotton? Here's where it
really helps. To get worn or weathered looks, cotton
burns where as polyester blends melt. If you want
bullet holes, burn marks or whatever...cotton is your
best bet. But if you want something to appear
melted...a laser perhaps...maybe polyester helps?
Haven't tried that one yet...it's on my list.
I've put burn marks on cotton banners by flicking hot
ashes from a cigarette, using matches I just blew out,
and so on. If it burns, it works on cotton. I've also
taken a lighter to the edges but have yet to perfect
that technique. (Running around screaming my hair's on
fire! My hair IS ON FIRE! Is not fun.)
Okay, after putting yourself out...or is that just me?
You should have a banner ready to apply. Oh, and the
marks...if you washed your banner, the marks are gone.
No worries, that's why you measured before you cut and
put those little nips in, top and bottom. Cut straight
and there ya go. One used banner.
So...now its so used it doesn't stand up but hangs
there like...well...we won't go there. After cutting,
trimming, and getting the look you want, place the
banner in the position you want it. Wavy...use small
rolls of tinfoil to give it that up and down
appearance. Then give it a small blast of spray
starch. You remember, that stuff your mom or grandma
used to use when ironing, available at any grocery
store. You'll want to use a bit more than mom or
grandma did to make the fabric really stiff. Remember
on the other hand, dad or grandpa complaining about
too much starch in the collar??? Well, for banners, we
want some, but not so much so it soaks the banner
until it's limp. Limp is not good as we all know.
Let dry overnight.
After that, apply to standard. You can do some minor
reshaping...MINOR, I said, do anything more and the
starch is destroyed. PVA glue works well for affixing
but so does Super Glue (although you've gotta be fast
with that). Give it a shot, you may be surprised what
you can create.
Cheers,
Karrie
P.S.: Wenn sich Einer über den Namen der jungen Dame lustig macht, gibt's ein paar an die Backen 😉
Ist halt auf englisch. -_-
Cloth Banners - by kathrynloch . (0 Replies). MOD-InquisitorRicho[]. 1/11/2004 18:19 (1/11/2004 18:19)
Cloth banners are very simple. Number one, use simple
fabrics...a cotton fabric with a good tight weave.
They are usually cheap and readily available on the
scrap table at your local fabric store or even
Wal-Mart.
No matter the color, you can usually get the best
result from that basic cotton blend, either by
coloring it with paint or dye...rather than buying the
color you want with polyester in it.
Polyester, since its basically plastic in and of
itself, gets nasty if you are trying to work with it.
For doing banners, please avoid polyester...but laser
burns are the exception.
Take a swatch of fabric and using seamstress chalk
(basic chalk with a point) or seamstress pens (there
are pens for fabric that either wash out or fade after
a couple of hours). Draw first the outline of your
banner, the general shape. Is it square,
triangle...double triangle...so on and so forth. I
usually make a dotted line where the banner will
attach to the pole and extend it outward to wrap
around the pole it's hanging on. I also make little
nips with scissors, top and bottom, to note the end of
the fabric after the extension to wrap around a
pole...you'll see why later.
If you want to get really detailed with this...do the
same thing but make your measurements to wrap around a
rope (thread or leather) instead of a pole.
Once I get that drawn, I usually go ahead and paint
before cutting the piece out. This includes any
heraldry...the symbols...I want. But I can't draw
worth a crap, you say. Simple, there are many examples
in books that you love...create a stencil. Just create
an outline by tracing the heraldry and color it in
from there.
I've discovered, being a part of this forum for a very
short time, many of you think you are not artists,
when in fact you are exactly that. And very good ones
too! Come on my friend, dare to be different and try
something new, you may be surprised at the results.
Okay, soap box aside, when I get the piece I want on
one side, I hold the fabric up to good light and trace
the outline I just made on the opposite side. This can
be rather tricky at times but just make light marks
and you'll get it. I then paint the other side.
Now...as to paints...fabric paints are the best...they
even have fabric pens now. But those old delta paints
work awesome as well.
What look do I want? Brand new regiment, we want it
crisp and well. So don't wash it at all. If you want
one that has seen major battles? Don't cut up that
scrap yet...throw the entire thing in the washing
machine, on cold but not by itself (I throw it in with
my jeans) for a cycle. And be sure to dry...drying
helps the aging process.
Okay, on brand new appearance, no washing, I trim
neatly and apply according to those measurement marks
I made.
Now with wanting used standards...Washing and drying
helps fade colors but after cutting I grab some ends
of thread and fuzz them out. Go with your tastes
here...but don't yank on long threads otherwise you
may pull out a major piece of your banner. If a thread
is too long, trim it off with sharp scissors.
Why was I so adamant about cotton? Here's where it
really helps. To get worn or weathered looks, cotton
burns where as polyester blends melt. If you want
bullet holes, burn marks or whatever...cotton is your
best bet. But if you want something to appear
melted...a laser perhaps...maybe polyester helps?
Haven't tried that one yet...it's on my list.
I've put burn marks on cotton banners by flicking hot
ashes from a cigarette, using matches I just blew out,
and so on. If it burns, it works on cotton. I've also
taken a lighter to the edges but have yet to perfect
that technique. (Running around screaming my hair's on
fire! My hair IS ON FIRE! Is not fun.)
Okay, after putting yourself out...or is that just me?
You should have a banner ready to apply. Oh, and the
marks...if you washed your banner, the marks are gone.
No worries, that's why you measured before you cut and
put those little nips in, top and bottom. Cut straight
and there ya go. One used banner.
So...now its so used it doesn't stand up but hangs
there like...well...we won't go there. After cutting,
trimming, and getting the look you want, place the
banner in the position you want it. Wavy...use small
rolls of tinfoil to give it that up and down
appearance. Then give it a small blast of spray
starch. You remember, that stuff your mom or grandma
used to use when ironing, available at any grocery
store. You'll want to use a bit more than mom or
grandma did to make the fabric really stiff. Remember
on the other hand, dad or grandpa complaining about
too much starch in the collar??? Well, for banners, we
want some, but not so much so it soaks the banner
until it's limp. Limp is not good as we all know.
Let dry overnight.
After that, apply to standard. You can do some minor
reshaping...MINOR, I said, do anything more and the
starch is destroyed. PVA glue works well for affixing
but so does Super Glue (although you've gotta be fast
with that). Give it a shot, you may be surprised what
you can create.
Cheers,
Karrie
P.S.: Wenn sich Einer über den Namen der jungen Dame lustig macht, gibt's ein paar an die Backen 😉
@helve lol Karrie!looool! nein nein spaß ich mag Karrie 😀 😉
Vielen dank für die Tips
PS:Kann jemand mal ein tutorials machen(bebildert und so. . .)-->PROWLER!!!!! 😀
Cya
Antharius
Vielen dank für die Tips
PS:Kann jemand mal ein tutorials machen(bebildert und so. . .)-->PROWLER!!!!! 😀
Cya
Antharius
naja mal schaun was sich da machen lässt. ich kann aber nix versprechen. bin nämlich ned grad so der bannermacher 😉 . aber was nicht is kann ja noch werden und für meine marines brauch ich eh noch welche 🙂
ich suche einfach eine vorlage
und verusche so gut wie möglich das dann abzumalen geht kannst gut und einen sehr feinen pinsel nehmen is doch klar
und verusche so gut wie möglich das dann abzumalen geht kannst gut und einen sehr feinen pinsel nehmen is doch klar
Ich finde Aluminiumblech ist hervorragend für Banner geeignet.
Man kann es mit der Schere schneiden, verbiegen und es bleibt in Form.
Bemalen kann man es ganz einfach mit den GW- oder anderen Acrylfarben.
Man kann es mit der Schere schneiden, verbiegen und es bleibt in Form.
Bemalen kann man es ganz einfach mit den GW- oder anderen Acrylfarben.