Regelfrage Wie verhält sich das in der Konstellastion Infanterietrupp + Kommandotrupp + Ogry Bodyguard im Bezug auf den Wiederstand

[Nobilis]

Moin, die Leader Regel führt aktuell zu einigem Verständniss-Chaos:

Some Character units have ‘Leader’ listed on their
datasheets. Such Character units are known as
Leaders, and the units they can lead – known as their
Bodyguard units – are listed on their datasheet.
During the Declare Battle Formations step, for each
Leader in your army, if your army also includes one
or more of that Leader’s Bodyguard units, you can
select one of those Bodyguard units. That Leader will
then attach to that Bodyguard unit for the duration
of the battle and is said to be leading that unit. Each
Bodyguard unit can only have one Leader attached
to it.
While a Bodyguard unit contains a Leader, it is
known as an Attached unit and, with the exception
of rules that are triggered when units are destroyed
(pg 12), it is treated as a single unit for all rules
purposes. Each time an attack targets an Attached
unit, until the attacking unit has resolved all of its
attacks, you must use the Toughness characteristic of
the Bodyguard models in that unit, even if a Leader
in that unit has a different Toughness characteristic.
Each time an attack sucessfully wounds an Attached
unit, that attack cannot be allocated to a Character
model in that unit, even if that Character model
has lost one or more wounds or has already had
attacks allocated to it this phase. As soon as the last
Bodyguard model in an Attached unit has been
destroyed, any attacks made against that unit that
have yet to be allocated can then be allocated to
Character models in that unit.

Wie verhält sich das in der Konstellastion Infanterietrupp + Kommandotrupp + Ogry Bodyguard im Bezug auf den Wiederstand der Einheit wenn ihr Treffer zugeordnet werden?

Im Regelkommentar steht dazu noch:

Unit’s Toughness Characteristic: If an Attached unit contains
models with different Toughness characteristics, for the purpose of
determining that unit’s Toughness characteristic, use the highest
Toughness characteristic amongst that unit’s Bodyguard models.
If a non-Attached unit contains models with different Toughness
characteristics, for the purpose of determining that unit’s Toughness
characteristic, use the highest Toughness characteristic amongst all
of that unit’s models. In either case, When resolving attacks against
such a unit, determine that unit’s Toughness characteristic when it is
selected as a target.

Im Grunde läuft es für mich damit auf die Frage hinaus, ob nur der Offizier (da er als einiger das Keyword Character hat) Leader ist und alle anderen damit attached Unit oder ob der gesamte Kommandotrupp Leader ist und ob der Ogryn zählt laut seiner Regel immer wieder der Kommandotrupp.

 

[Dachfenster]

Der Widerstand der Einheit ist 3. Der Ogryn wird dem Kommandotrupp zugeordnet und ist nicht Teil der Bodyguard Einheit. Der Infantry Trupp ist Bodyguard, und die haben Widerstand 3.

 

[Nobilis]

Aber in der Leader Regel steht doch, dass nur Charakter als Leader zählen und alle anderen Modelle als Bodyguard:

Some Character units have ‘Leader’ listed on their
datasheets. Such Character units are known as
Leaders, and the units they can lead – known as their
Bodyguard units

 

[Maxamato]

Der Ogryn wird Teil des Command squad und damit Teil der Characater unit.

 

[Ghost Writer]

Der Ogryn "counts as part of the Command squad for the rest of the game."

Dh er ist wie die anderen Mitglieder des Command auch kein Charakter und Teil der normalen Modelle des Command Squad.
Dh ohne das der Command Squad einem Trupp angeschlossen wird, würde der Widerstand des Ogryn zählen!

Sind die normalen Command Squad Mitglieder (zb Standartenträger) und der Ogryn "Bodyguards", wenn sich der Command Squad dem Trupp anschließt?
Nein. RAW sind Bodyguards nur die Units, die unter "Leader" aufgelistet sind. Zb der Infantrie Trupp.