Armeeliste Freundschaftsspiel: Gebt dem Chaos aufs Fressbrett 2000 Punkte

JK781

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Ich habe am nächsten Donnerstag ein Spiel gegen nen Kumpel.

Er wird CSM ins Feld führen (Traitor Legions: World Eaters und Thousand Sons).

Mein Plan ist es, den Chaoten ordentlich die Fratze im Nahkampf zu polieren. Ich hab mir zwei Listen gebastelt und bräuchte nun Rat von anderen Waaaghbossen.

Liste 1

++ Ork Horde Detachment (Codex Orks) (Orks: Codex (2014) v2006) (1999pts) ++
+ Elites (375pts) +

········Nobz (375pts) [Waaagh! Banner (20pts)]
············Boss Nob (48pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (43pts) [Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (43pts) [Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (43pts) [Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (43pts) [Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Warbikes for Mob (135pts) [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

+ Fast Attack (180pts) +

········Deffkoptas (90pts)
············Deffkopta (30pts) [Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
············Deffkopta (30pts) [Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
············Deffkopta (30pts) [Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

········Warbuggies (90pts)
············Wartrakk (30pts) [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]
············Wartrakk (30pts) [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]
············Wartrakk (30pts) [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]

+ Heavy Support (285pts) +

········Battlewagon (145pts) [Killkannon (30pts), Reinforced Ram (5pts)]

········Lootas (140pts)
············10x Loota (140pts) [10x Deffgun, 10x Stikkbombs]

+ HQ (329pts) +

········Big Mek (104pts) ['Eavy Armour (4pts), Choppa, Gift: Da Fixer Upperz (15pts), HQ, Kustom Force Field (50pts), Mek's Tools, Stikkbombs]

········Painboy (75pts) ['Urty Syringe, Dok's Tools, HQ]
············Warbike (25pts) [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

········Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' (FW) (150pts) [Da Rippa, HQ, Sitkkbombz, Slugga, Warlord, Zhadsnark]
············Da Beast [Twin-linked Big Shoota]

+ Troops (830pts) +

········Boyz (195pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob (48pts)]
············Boss Nob (46pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············11x Boy (66pts) [11x Choppa, 11x Slugga, 11x Stikkbombs]
············Trukk (35pts) [Reinforced Ram (5pts), Rokkit Launcha]

········Boyz (195pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob (48pts)]
············Boss Nob (46pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············11x Boy (66pts) [11x Choppa, 11x Slugga, 11x Stikkbombs]
············Trukk (35pts) [Reinforced Ram (5pts), Rokkit Launcha]

········Warbikers (220pts)
············9x Warbiker (162pts) [9x Choppa, 9x Slugga]
················9x Warbike [9x Twin-linked Dakkaguns]
············Warbiker Nob (58pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga]
················Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

········Warbikers (220pts)
············9x Warbiker (162pts) [9x Choppa, 9x Slugga]
················9x Warbike [9x Twin-linked Dakkaguns]
············Warbiker Nob (58pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga] ················Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

Liste 2

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Orks: Codex (2014) v2006) (874pts) ++
+ HQ (169pts) +

········Painboy (50pts) ['Urty Syringe, Dok's Tools, HQ]

········Warboss (119pts) ['Eavy Armour (4pts), Bosspole (5pts), Gift: Da Lucky Stikk (25pts), HQ, Power Klaw (25pts), Shoota, Stikkbombs]

+ Elites (315pts) +

········Nobz (315pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob (20pts)]
············Battlewagon (155pts) [2x Big Shoota (10pts), Killkannon (30pts), Reinforced Ram (5pts)]
············Boss Nob (28pts) [Big Choppa (5pts), Bosspole (5pts), Shoota, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (43pts) [Power Klaw (25pts), Shoota, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (23pts) [Big Choppa (5pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (23pts) [Big Choppa (5pts), Shoota, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (23pts) [Big Choppa (5pts), Shoota, Stikkbombs]

+ Troops (390pts) +

········Boyz (195pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob (48pts)]
············Boss Nob (46pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Shoota, Stikkbombs]
············11x Boy (66pts) [11x Choppa, 11x Slugga, 11x Stikkbombs]
············Trukk (35pts) [Reinforced Ram (5pts), Rokkit Launcha]

········Boyz (195pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob (48pts)]
············Boss Nob (46pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Shoota, Stikkbombs]
············11x Boy (66pts) [11x Choppa, 11x Slugga, 11x Stikkbombs]
············Trukk (35pts) [Reinforced Ram (5pts), Rokkit Launcha]

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Orks: Codex (2014) v2006) (1130pts) ++

+ HQ (225pts) +

········Painboy (75pts) ['Urty Syringe, Dok's Tools, HQ]
············Warbike (25pts) [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

········Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' (FW) (150pts) [Da Rippa, HQ, Sitkkbombz, Slugga, Warlord, Zhadsnark]
············Da Beast [Twin-linked Big Shoota]

+ Elites (375pts) +

········Nobz (375pts) [Waaagh! Banner (20pts)]
············Boss Nob (48pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (43pts) [Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (43pts) [Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (43pts) [Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Nob (43pts) [Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs]
············Warbikes for Mob (135pts) [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

+ Troops (440pts) +

········Warbikers (220pts)
············9x Warbiker (162pts) [9x Choppa, 9x Slugga]
················9x Warbike [9x Twin-linked Dakkaguns]
············Warbiker Nob (58pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga]
················Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

········Warbikers (220pts)
············9x Warbiker (162pts) [9x Choppa, 9x Slugga]
················9x Warbike [9x Twin-linked Dakkaguns]
············Warbiker Nob (58pts) [Bosspole (5pts), Power Klaw (25pts), Slugga]
················Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

+ Fast Attack (90pts) +

········Deffkoptas (30pts)
············Deffkopta (30pts) [Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

········Deffkoptas (30pts)
············Deffkopta (30pts) [Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

········Deffkoptas (30pts)
············Deffkopta (30pts) [Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

+ Primary Detachment +
········Primary Detachment

Liste 1 hat vielleicht etwas wenig Beschuss?

Liste 2 vielleicht etwas zu wenig Punch?

Also Boys, sagt mir wie ich die Spikey Gitz am besten moschen kann!
 
Beides klingt gut spielbar finde ich. Und wer World Eaters und Thousand Sons mischt dem gehört (natürlich nur auf dem Spielfeld) aufs Fressbrett! 😛
Vom Battlewagon als Lieferant für die Killkannon und somit rein für Beschuss halt ich wenig, lieber den günstigen Looted Wagon. Und Kombination Killakannon und Boss-Taxi ist halt weder Fisch noch Fleisch!
Bei den Bikes einfach bedenken, die sind eine unserer besten Beschusseinheiten, nutze ihre Mobilität um den Gegner auszudünnen und wähle deine Nahkämpfe mit Bedacht (möglichst verlustfrei gewinnen aber erst in der zweiten Nahkampfrunde ist das Ziel).
 
Und wer World Eaters und Thousand Sons mischt dem gehört (natürlich nur auf dem Spielfeld) aufs Fressbrett! 😛

Der arme Kerl musste in den letzten Jahren so sehr leiden mit dem Chaos, daher sei es ihm gegönnt. 😉

Das Problem mit der Killkannon ist, ich hab leider noch keinen Looted Wagon und wollte etwas DS 3 Beschuss haben der relativ zuverlässig ist..
 
Das war wohl das härteste Gemetzel das ich persönlich bei 40k miterlebt habe.. Am Ende stand nur noch mein Lucky Warboss und meine zwei Sturmeinheiten, die Chaoten waren ausgelöscht. Gab aber auch nur World Eaters, keine Hexerei. Die neue Regel mit der 2W6 Bewegung vor Spielbeginn ist echt nur geil. Die Chaoten standen in Runde 1 schon in meiner Aufstellungszone. Sowas brauchen die Orks auch 😉 Ohne Zhadsnark und seinen "Todesstern" hätte ich das aber nie wuppen können. So macht das Spiel richtig Spaß. Einfach ehrlich auf die Schnauze geben, ohne so eine Eldar-Teufelei und anderes Hexenwerk. Ich glaub ich muss meine Fists verkaufen, die packe ich sobald nicht mehr aus 😀

Ach gespielt habe ich diese Liste:

++ Ork Horde Detachment (Codex Orks) (Orks: Codex (2014) v2006) (1997pts) ++
+ Elites (375pts) +

········Nobz (375pts) [Waaagh! Banner, Warbikes for Mob]
············Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]

+ Fast Attack (180pts) +

········Deffkoptas (90pts)
············Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
············Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
············Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

········Warbuggies (90pts)
············Wartrakk [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]
············Wartrakk [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]
············Wartrakk [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]

+ Heavy Support (319pts) +

········Battlewagon (160pts) [Killkannon, 4x Rokkit Launcha]

········Lootas (159pts) [10x Loota]
············Mek
················Mek Boy [Choppa, Kustom Mega-blasta]

+ HQ (380pts) +

········Painboy (80pts) [Bosspole, Warbike]

········Warboss (150pts) [Bosspole, Gift: Da Lucky Stikk, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw, Warbike]

········Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' (FW) (150pts) [Warlord, Zhadsnark]

+ Troops (743pts) +

········Boyz (195pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 11x Boy]
············Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Trukk [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]

········Warbikers (220pts) [9x Warbiker]
············Warbiker Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw]

········Warbikers (220pts) [9x Warbiker]
············Warbiker Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw]

········Warbikers (108pts) [6x Warbiker]
 
Die Ballerburg war ein 160 Punkte Opferlamm, welches einen seiner Cahos Lords samt Entourage Trupp in die Falle gelockt hat. Der Trupp wurde von meinem Bossmob und einem der Biker Mobs zusammengeschossen und der Lord von Zhadsnark in einer Challegnge umgebrezelt..
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Ja, die Krallen waren etwas Overklill, die mussten nicht einmal schlagen weil Zhadsnark und Lucky alles zermoscht haben.. Allgemein hat Zhadsnark 3 Chaos Lords verkloppt, einen in Termirüstung, einen auf Moloch und einen mit Jump Pack. Der Mann hat seine Punkte reingeholt.
Einen kurzen Bericht wird es noch geben, bei zeiten.
 
Es ist zwar noch ein wenig hin, aber es steht demnächst ein Spiel gegen Necrons an. Ich hab allerdings noch nie gegen die Zinnsoldaten gespielt. 1750 Punkte sind angesetzt. Kann man gegen die Zinnköppe eine ähnliche Liste spielen?

Sowas zum Beispiel?
++ Ork Horde Detachment (Codex Orks) (Orks: Codex (2014) v2006) (1750pts) ++
+ Elites (355pts) +

········Nobz (355pts) [Warbikes for Mob]
············Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]

+ Fast Attack (180pts) +

········Deffkoptas (90pts)
············Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
············Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
············Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

········Warbuggies (90pts)
············Wartrakk [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]
············Wartrakk [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]
············Wartrakk [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]

+ HQ (385pts) +

········Painboy (80pts) [Grot Orderly, Warbike]

········Warboss (155pts) [Gift: Da Lucky Stikk, Gubbinz: Big Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga, Warbike]

········Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' (FW) (150pts) [Warlord, Zhadsnark]

+ No Force Org Slot +

········Show Waaagh Ghazgul Relics

+ Troops (830pts) +

········Boyz (195pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 11x Boy]
············Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Trukk [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]

········Boyz (195pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 11x Boy]
············Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Trukk [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]

········Warbikers (220pts) [9x Warbiker]
············Warbiker Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw]

········Warbikers (220pts) [9x Warbiker] ············Warbiker Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw]
 
Wie wäre es denn damit?

++ Ork Horde Detachment (Codex Orks) (Orks: Codex (2014) v2006) (1750pts) ++
+ Elites (290pts) +

········Nobz (290pts) [Warbikes for Mob]
············Boss Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Nob [Big Choppa, Slugga]
············Nob [Big Choppa, Slugga]
············Nob [Big Choppa, Slugga]

+ Fast Attack (325pts) +

········Dakkajet (145pts) [Flyboss, 3x Twin-linked Supa Shoota]

········Deffkoptas (90pts)
············Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
············Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
············Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

········Warbuggies (90pts)
············Wartrakk [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]
············Wartrakk [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]
············Wartrakk [Twin-linked Rockit Launcha]

+ Heavy Support (140pts) +

········Lootas (140pts) [10x Loota]

+ HQ (360pts) +

········Painboy (75pts) [Warbike]

········Warboss (135pts) [Gift: Da Lucky Stikk, Power Klaw, Slugga, Warbike]

········Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' (FW) (150pts) [Warlord, Zhadsnark]

+ No Force Org Slot +

········Show Waaagh Ghazgul Relics

+ Troops (635pts) +

········Boyz (195pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 11x Boy]
············Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga]
············Trukk [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]

········Warbikers (220pts) [9x Warbiker]
············Warbiker Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw]

········Warbikers (220pts) [9x Warbiker]
············Warbiker Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw]
 
Meine Spiele gegen die Metallzombies waren bisher immer erfolglos. Da wollte kaum wer sterben.
Ganz ordentlich waren aber tatsächlich Bikes, MekGuns (Mega Kannons!) und Läufer.
Meine Bikes habe ich, wenn möglich, aus Nahkämpfen rausgehalten. Ihr Beschuß war einfach besser - synchronisiert rettet den Tag.
Die MekGuns hatten im ersten Spiel nen Run, da ging keine Schablone daneben. Im zweiten Spiel waren sie etwas schlechter, haben aber trotzdem gut aufgeräumt. s8 ist der doppelte Widerstand, bei ds2 sind die Necrons auf ihren Rettungswurf angewiesen.
Läufer...klar, die Gauss-Regel ist nicht zu verachten (jede 6 beim Verwunden ist ein Streifschuß), aber insgesamt halten sich Deff Dreads gegen andere Blechhaufen wirklich sehr gut. Zumal jeder von denen mit s10 zuhaut. Nachteilig ist, dass die Läufer extrem langsam sind.