Originally Posted by my_name_is_tudor
More Horus Heresy stuff? How dull. They've already done that.
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
Oh no they haven't
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
Think outside the box a little.......... or maybe inside the box
Originally Posted by BasetheRuin
As in think inside the brand new 30k starter box?
I'll have to start saving money then!
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
Originally Posted by my_name_is_tudor
Personally I don't think there's any version of a 30K game that could get me particularly excited, given my assumption that it would focus on the good marines/bad marines bust up and not all the other interesting stuff the Galaxy has to offer...
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
well maybe not initially
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
To end SOME speculation I'll say it's not a different scale. And I'll add that this whilst initially being a standalone product is only the beginning
Oh, and just for the record AFAIK there's no 40k end times. 40k remains as is.
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
Yes indeed, but let's take it a bit further. Let's imagine creating a standalone game, which is only available for say 6 months, BUT then we'll make the models from it available as individual box sets for something we are definitely going to support, something that might take up empty shelf space in stores. Lets ALSO then imagine we then release another standalone game, again limited to so many months, then we make the models from that set available for another range we support.
Obviously I'm just speculating here.... right
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
and so shall I.
Right guys there are several separate rumours that folks are getting mixed up. So I'll at least split it up a little for you. THIS IS NOT RELEASE ORDER, just to help separate the rumours. IT ALSO ISN'T A FULL LIST OF THIS YEARS 40K RELEASES, in fact some of these may be early next year. NONE OF THESE ARE WFB BASED.
Admech Codex & models (full release)
***** Codex & Models (Harlequin sized release)
***** Codex & Models (Harlequin sized release)
***** Standalone Boxed "historical game"models from which will form part of "a full range" (notice I didn't say existing range)
***** Standalone Boxed Game models from which will form part of an existing range
I haven't heard anything about mark 9 armour so don't associate it with any of the above.
Speculate away
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
I mean Harlequin sized as in number of kits, i.e. a few characters, a troops kit, a larger kit and a transport. Or thereaboutsOne kind of has a main codex, kind of, and it's been mentioned on this very thread. The other has also been mentioned on another thread, the one that got moved for not having any news or rumours in.... even though it actually contained quite a bit. In fact I suppose you might say the 2nd has a main codex too(kind of)
You sir are on the mark
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
No. It's HH as stated above.
I think there's a misunderstanding here. BOTH new standalone games will have their model contents released. The first being HH, will see models released as part of the 30k range. The 2nd boxed game models will be released as part of 40k range, part that is currently only available in finecast and not deathwatch before anyone says it again.
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
Totally (well not totally actually) unrelated I did hear that actual CODEXes? (CODices?) god know s the plural, might soon be a thing of the past. with all rules being in box leaflets. Some might even contain 2 sets of rules, one for 40k and one for 30kBut I'm not 100% on this.
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
This is partially true. The "starter set" is in fact a standalone game, however I'll accept starter set as it does lead onto the main 30k game. I think it's safe to assume that 30k could/will have a different game mechanic to 40k, or it would be pretty pointless as a standalone game. Hence the reason that some boxes will contain rules for both 30 & 40k (if the rules weren't different they'd only include 1 set of rules.
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
As I previously said I am lead to believe it will be a main range (30k) and will take up the shelf space from lotr/hobbit. I think continued support is pretty much a given.
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
Don't forget once this standalone box is off the shelves/website the contents (models) will for boxes for the main range. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were in a similar fashion to the recent Deathstorm components.
Originally Posted by 75hastings69
I'm almost 100% certain it will not use the same rules as 40k, if it did it would be pointless as a standalone game, and pointless providing in box rules for 30k & 40k. That's what I think anyway.
Von Lord of Wargaming, über Bolter and Chainsword:
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303432-rumours-plastic-horus-heresy-box/page-32
Von BolS:
It’s been 3 months to the day – and the Plastic Horus Heresy rumors are coming back! Lets catch you up:
First off, today’s tidbit, which lines up pretty well with where we left off in Q2:
via “Mikhael” 7-15-2015And let’s go back a little and refresh everyone’s memory with where we left off: Basically if you remember there was a large amount of trustworthy rumormongers saying the plastic Horus Heresy set was coming, and everyone assumed it was going to early in the year before Age of Sigmar. But right before the rumors went dark, multiple reliable sources said it would late in the year after the Age of Sigmar release window.
Horus Heresy plastic boxed set is coming and is scheduled for November 2015
via “Pathwalker” 7-15-2015
Hobbit and all LotR stock will be off the shelves and direct only, they’re replacing it with A Horus heresy game, but won’t compete with 40k directly. Horus Heresy is coming for Christmas.
via Lords of War 2-16-2014
Regarding scheduling of Horus Heresy Plastics
Plastic HH marks of armor in May? You’re way off!
I didn’t say it wasn’t happening. It will not be in May.
via Voices in the Trees 3-8-2015
Horus Heresy Starter Set
2 sides, Identically EquippedModels are NOT legion marked.Generic Heresy-era models.– Early Heresy mark armor Astartes x20
– Cataphractii Terminators x5
– Contemptor Dreadnought x1
– Praetor x1
I never mentioned May
I never mentioned “Nerd rage”
I was only talking about the new space marines.
I said it was going to cause a “**** storm” ….
I simply meant it was ‘big news’ and it was going to cause a lot of … ‘excitement’on the 40K boards.
I did not intend to cause any panic.
It would seem duffybear heard a rumour about new space marines. He naturally assumed these were what came next …. mark 9
However it did not occur to him that what his rumour was about was what came before …..
I think these rumours ARE part of the same thing.
I think Duffy’s rumours are about the new space marines for THIS …. for 30K
So that would make it not mark 9 but something like Mark 3 / Mark 4 ? armour. (Or whatever armour it was 30K …someone will have to help me out with that)
The armour is a simpler, earlier version of the power armour we all know and love.
It looks a bit like something Tony Stark might have knocked up in the desert.
Hastings auf Warseer:
I don't know TBH, I'll share what I have heard, but this dates back a while as I pay very little interest to GW now.
I heard that 30k HH would be a boxed standalone game (like execution force was) and that the plastics contained within it would go on to form part of a larger 30k range and would be released some time later as individual box sets/clampacks, I was told that rules would be in those boxes, but that some boxes would contain rules for 30k AND 40k (and these boxes have BOTH logos on - yes there is a new 30k logo) so I assume it will be using a different ruleset to 40k (as there would be no point having rules for both systems in boxes if they were both the same). I was also told the plastic assassins would get clampack releases later and be released as part of the main 40k range..... as the box set is pretty much still quite widely available I don't expect this to be soon, although I never had a timeframe in the first case.
As for your AoS style rule reboot question - I remember being told to expect 40k codexes (codices?) to be a thing of the past within 2 years, and that the rules would be in the box for each model/unit, but there would still be a core ruleset which the in box rules would obviously add to. I've not bought any AoS releases (nor do I intend to) so I don't know if they have rules in the boxes (seems daft as when rules got FAQ'd (lol) or changed they'd need to repack ALL the boxes - seems even dafter that anything would actually bother with rules for AoS!!) or just online? I am going to leap to the conclusion that 40k probably WILL become more simplified like AoS, mainly because GW no longer see themselves as rules/games writers but just model sellers. How much more simplified I wouldn't hazard a guess at. Whatever they decide to do you can bet it's in the pipeline already, because myself and Harry were privately discussing the changes to WFB almost 3 years ago - I was told it was being canned and whilst we thought that was not the case and that AoS would be a continuation or refresh of it WFB HAS actually been canned and REPLACED by AoS, so these things are planned well ahead.
FW make huge sales from HH, there was no way that GW weren't going to want in on the action! I expect FW to still produce the big kits/characters/customising kits but GW will provide the bulk of the models needed to play 30k. We can only hope that GW let FW handle the 30k rules/books and they just make the models for it. But keep in mind I was told that when the 30k RANGE hits the stores (not the standalone box game but the actual range) it will take over the store space that used to be taken up by LotR/Hobbit, so GW may want to keep tight hold of the reigns even though they are no longer committed to producing games?
That's probably done very little to answer you, but it's the best I can manage and hopefully slightly informative if only a repost of what I wrote in January.
Indeed. Maybe those are the 2 characters from the starter/standalone box that might only be available in that box...... or something
*EDIT.
Having thought about this I think the unit/model rules for 30k & 40k will be online/WD rather than actually inside the box kits (I may have misinterpreted what my source said).
Also I should point out that as I understand it 40k and 30k will be very different games/rulesets, so it may be that 40k becomes like AoS and 30k is handled by FW (although this is just wishful thinking on the behalf of hobbyists the world over!).
Of course I may be completely wrong...... because that happens a lot
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