Hallo zusammen!
Ich bin der Neue 🙂
Aufgrund der letzten Misserfolge (die ziemlich klar aus meinem Listenkonzept kommen, bzw. daher dass meine Liste mit dem Meta nicht umgehen kann) würde ich gerne eine Recht große Umstellung vornehmen. Ich schwanke momentan zwischen 2 Listen und hoffe da auf ein bisschen kompetente Entscheidungshilfe.
Mein bisheriges Konzept in Kurzfassung:
WS CAD
Librarius Conclave
Skyhammer
Der Stern ist hart.. 2 Bombadements, Celestine tankt alles, Tiggi macht invis/Synchro/Ful5 und alle sind in der ersten Runde durch den Bunker geschützt (und steigen dann 18" aus!).
Ich habe mit dem vielen Grav viele schlechte Matchups, kann wenig Marker halten, und verliere sehr oft gegen MSU Konzepte.
Neue Ideen:
IH-Bikes in GSF + RipWing
Alter GravStern + RipWin + Demi
Im voraus schonmal Danke für jede Art von Feedback! Ruhig offen und ehrlich 🙂
Nico
Ich bin der Neue 🙂
Aufgrund der letzten Misserfolge (die ziemlich klar aus meinem Listenkonzept kommen, bzw. daher dass meine Liste mit dem Meta nicht umgehen kann) würde ich gerne eine Recht große Umstellung vornehmen. Ich schwanke momentan zwischen 2 Listen und hoffe da auf ein bisschen kompetente Entscheidungshilfe.
Mein bisheriges Konzept in Kurzfassung:
WS CAD
HQ Celestine
HQ Ch.Master, EFaust, ,HuntersEye
Troops 5 Scouts, 5 Marines im Pod
H.Sup. 4 GravCents mit Omni
FORT Bunker mit Voidshield
HQ Ch.Master, EFaust, ,HuntersEye
Troops 5 Scouts, 5 Marines im Pod
H.Sup. 4 GravCents mit Omni
FORT Bunker mit Voidshield
Tigiurius
Libbi St2 - Axt
Libbi St2 - Axt
Libbi St2 - Axt
Libbi St2 - Axt
2x 5 Assault
2x 5 Devastoren, 3x Grav, 3x Multimelter, Pods
2x 5 Devastoren, 3x Grav, 3x Multimelter, Pods
Der Stern ist hart.. 2 Bombadements, Celestine tankt alles, Tiggi macht invis/Synchro/Ful5 und alle sind in der ersten Runde durch den Bunker geschützt (und steigen dann 18" aus!).
Ich habe mit dem vielen Grav viele schlechte Matchups, kann wenig Marker halten, und verliere sehr oft gegen MSU Konzepte.
Neue Ideen:
IH-Bikes in GSF + RipWing
IH Gladius Strike Force
++ Formation Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015)) [545pts] ++
+ Formation [545pts] +
Riptide Wing [545pts]
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [180pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [180pts]: Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [185pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [185pts]: Ion Accelerator [5pts], Twin-linked Smart Missile System
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [180pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [180pts]: Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
++ SM Gladius Strike Force (Space Marines: Codex (2015)) [1305pts] ++
+ Core [1140pts] +
Formation: Battle Company (Free Transports) [1140pts]
·· Battle Demi-Company 1 [545pts]
···· Attack Bike Squad [40pts]
······ Attack Bike [40pts]: Heavy Bolter
···· Captain [225pts]
······ Captain [225pts]: Chapter Master [40pts]
········ Power Armour [95pts]: Chainsword, Chapter Relic (IH): The Gorgon's Chain [45pts], Power Weapon (Axe) [15pts], Space Marine Bike [20pts], Storm Shield [15pts]
···· Devastator Squad [70pts]: Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine[14pts]
······ Drop Pod: Storm Bolter
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Battle Demi-Company 2 [595pts]
···· Attack Bike Squad [40pts]
······ Attack Bike [40pts]: Heavy Bolter
···· Chaplain [110pts]
······ Chaplain Armour [20pts]: Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, Space Marine Bike [20pts]
···· Command Squad [165pts]: Apothecary [33pts], Space Marine Bike [35pts]
······ Veteran [33pts]: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Melta bombs [5pts], Storm Shield [10pts]
······ Veteran [18pts]: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
······ Veteran [28pts]: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Storm Shield [10pts]
······ Veteran [18pts]: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
···· Devastator Squad [70pts]: Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts]
······ Drop Pod: Storm Bolter
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
+ Auxiliary [165pts] +
Formation: 10th Company Task Force [165pts]
·· Scout Squad [55pts]
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Scout Squad [55pts]
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Scout Squad [55pts]
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
Chapter Tactics: Iron Hands
++ Total: [1850pts] ++
++ Formation Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015)) [545pts] ++
+ Formation [545pts] +
Riptide Wing [545pts]
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [180pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [180pts]: Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [185pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [185pts]: Ion Accelerator [5pts], Twin-linked Smart Missile System
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [180pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [180pts]: Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
++ SM Gladius Strike Force (Space Marines: Codex (2015)) [1305pts] ++
+ Core [1140pts] +
Formation: Battle Company (Free Transports) [1140pts]
·· Battle Demi-Company 1 [545pts]
···· Attack Bike Squad [40pts]
······ Attack Bike [40pts]: Heavy Bolter
···· Captain [225pts]
······ Captain [225pts]: Chapter Master [40pts]
········ Power Armour [95pts]: Chainsword, Chapter Relic (IH): The Gorgon's Chain [45pts], Power Weapon (Axe) [15pts], Space Marine Bike [20pts], Storm Shield [15pts]
···· Devastator Squad [70pts]: Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine[14pts]
······ Drop Pod: Storm Bolter
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Battle Demi-Company 2 [595pts]
···· Attack Bike Squad [40pts]
······ Attack Bike [40pts]: Heavy Bolter
···· Chaplain [110pts]
······ Chaplain Armour [20pts]: Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, Space Marine Bike [20pts]
···· Command Squad [165pts]: Apothecary [33pts], Space Marine Bike [35pts]
······ Veteran [33pts]: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Melta bombs [5pts], Storm Shield [10pts]
······ Veteran [18pts]: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
······ Veteran [28pts]: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Storm Shield [10pts]
······ Veteran [18pts]: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
···· Devastator Squad [70pts]: Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts], Space Marine [14pts]
······ Drop Pod: Storm Bolter
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
···· Tactical Squad [70pts]: Rhino
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
······ Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
+ Auxiliary [165pts] +
Formation: 10th Company Task Force [165pts]
·· Scout Squad [55pts]
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Scout Squad [55pts]
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Scout Squad [55pts]
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout [11pts]: Boltgun
···· Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
Chapter Tactics: Iron Hands
++ Total: [1850pts] ++
Alter GravStern + RipWin + Demi
Demi Company:
++ Formation Detachment (Space Marines: Codex (2015)) [943pts] ++
Chapter Tactics: Ultramarines
+ Formation [943pts] +
Formation: Battle Demi-Company [943pts]
·· Bike Squad [73pts]
···· Biker [21pts]
···· Biker (Special Weapon) [31pts]: Meltagun [10pts]
···· Biker Sergeant [21pts]: Bolt Pistol
·· Captain [225pts]
···· Captain [225pts]: Chapter Master [40pts]
······ Power Armour [95pts]: Artificer Armour [20pts], Chapter Relic: The Shield Eternal [50pts], Power Fist [25pts]
·· Centurion Devastator Squad [330pts]
···· Centurion [80pts]: Grav-Cannon and Grav-Amp [25pts], Hurricane Bolter
···· Centurion [80pts]: Grav-Cannon and Grav-Amp [25pts], Hurricane Bolter
···· Centurion [80pts]: Grav-Cannon and Grav-Amp [25pts], Hurricane Bolter
···· Centurion Sergeant [90pts]: Grav-Cannon and Grav-Amp [25pts], Hurricane Bolter, Omniscope [10pts]
·· Tactical Squad [105pts]
···· Drop Pod [35pts]: Storm Bolter / oder Rhino
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Tactical Squad [105pts]
···· Drop Pod [35pts]: Storm Bolter / oder Rhino
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Tactical Squad [105pts]
···· Drop Pod [35pts]: Storm Bolter / oder Rhino
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
++ Formation Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015)) [560pts] ++
+ Formation [560pts] +
Riptide Wing [560pts]
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [190pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [190pts]: Early Warning Override [5pts], Ion Accelerator [5pts], Twin-linked Smart Missile System
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [185pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [185pts]: Early Warning Override [5pts], Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [185pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [185pts]: Early Warning Override [5pts], Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
++ Formation Detachment (Space Marines: Codex (2015)) [345pts] ++
Chapter Tactics: Ultramarines
+ Formation [345pts] +
Formation: Librarius Conclave [345pts]
·· Chief Librarian Tigurius [165pts]
·· Librarian [90pts]: Psyker Level 2 [25pts]
···· Librarius Armour: Bolt Pistol, Force Stave
·· Librarian [90pts]: Psyker Level 2 [25pts]
···· Librarius Armour: Bolt Pistol, Force Stave
++ Total: [1848pts] ++
++ Formation Detachment (Space Marines: Codex (2015)) [943pts] ++
Chapter Tactics: Ultramarines
+ Formation [943pts] +
Formation: Battle Demi-Company [943pts]
·· Bike Squad [73pts]
···· Biker [21pts]
···· Biker (Special Weapon) [31pts]: Meltagun [10pts]
···· Biker Sergeant [21pts]: Bolt Pistol
·· Captain [225pts]
···· Captain [225pts]: Chapter Master [40pts]
······ Power Armour [95pts]: Artificer Armour [20pts], Chapter Relic: The Shield Eternal [50pts], Power Fist [25pts]
·· Centurion Devastator Squad [330pts]
···· Centurion [80pts]: Grav-Cannon and Grav-Amp [25pts], Hurricane Bolter
···· Centurion [80pts]: Grav-Cannon and Grav-Amp [25pts], Hurricane Bolter
···· Centurion [80pts]: Grav-Cannon and Grav-Amp [25pts], Hurricane Bolter
···· Centurion Sergeant [90pts]: Grav-Cannon and Grav-Amp [25pts], Hurricane Bolter, Omniscope [10pts]
·· Tactical Squad [105pts]
···· Drop Pod [35pts]: Storm Bolter / oder Rhino
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Tactical Squad [105pts]
···· Drop Pod [35pts]: Storm Bolter / oder Rhino
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
·· Tactical Squad [105pts]
···· Drop Pod [35pts]: Storm Bolter / oder Rhino
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine [14pts]: Boltgun
···· Space Marine Sergeant [14pts]: Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
++ Formation Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015)) [560pts] ++
+ Formation [560pts] +
Riptide Wing [560pts]
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [190pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [190pts]: Early Warning Override [5pts], Ion Accelerator [5pts], Twin-linked Smart Missile System
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [185pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [185pts]: Early Warning Override [5pts], Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
·· XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [185pts]
···· Riptide Shas'vre [185pts]: Early Warning Override [5pts], Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
++ Formation Detachment (Space Marines: Codex (2015)) [345pts] ++
Chapter Tactics: Ultramarines
+ Formation [345pts] +
Formation: Librarius Conclave [345pts]
·· Chief Librarian Tigurius [165pts]
·· Librarian [90pts]: Psyker Level 2 [25pts]
···· Librarius Armour: Bolt Pistol, Force Stave
·· Librarian [90pts]: Psyker Level 2 [25pts]
···· Librarius Armour: Bolt Pistol, Force Stave
++ Total: [1848pts] ++
Im voraus schonmal Danke für jede Art von Feedback! Ruhig offen und ehrlich 🙂
Nico
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