Battlefield Evolution und Starship Troopers

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heute war ich mal wieder im mongoose forum unterwegs, zwecks infos zu B% armageddon, dabei habe ich aber mal in die abteilung von starship troppers geschaut und folgendes entdeckt

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There has been a lot of speculation about the future of the Starship Troopers miniatures game. I am happy to report that we can now let you in on what we have been planning!

Throughout the life of Starship Troopers, there have been some things that we have been very, very proud of. The design of the Exosuits, for example, and the sheer presence of the Plasma Bug. We have also been very pleased with the core rules, which have proved remarkably versatile as well as providing players with an immersive experience.

There have also been some things that we have not been too happy with. The Skinnies, for example, have an incoherent overall feel, which is not what we intended for that army, and there are individual models that were simply not good enough for the modern market.

So, we felt it was time for a slight change in direction. There are a great many fans of the Starship Troopers game, and we believed we had a duty to them to produce the very best in miniatures gaming.

If you are a regular visitor to our forums, you may have seen comments regarding a new wave of technologies in the production of miniatures. This was always part of our long-term planning, but as we moved towards the production of the Essential Updates 2007 book (which was to include new units, revised cover rules and the Rebel Colony army list, among many other things), it became apparent that we could also move forward with the changes in the miniatures themselves. This timing meant that these two projects could be combined into something little short of fantastic. . .

STARSHIP TROOPERS IN 2006
For the rest of this year, we are not going to be producing any substantial releases for the Starship Troopers miniatures game. Existing models will continue to be produced, and we will be making available much of the new information that was to appear in Essential Updates 2007, freely, within Signs & Portents. This will include many things, from small rules tweaks to entire new army lists.

AND IN 2007. . .
In January next year, we will be releasing a new miniatures game called Battlefield Evolution. Set 5-10 years from the present time, you will be able to command real-world units of soldiers and vehicles in pitched battle, using the very latest in weapons technology. There will be four armies from the very start, and the game will use a modified version of the existing Starship Troopers rules. We have been playtesting these rules for some time now, and they are very slick in function – the term bullet-proof has been used to describe them.

What will make Battlefield Evolution different from other miniatures games that are on sale now is that the models will not simply be pre-painted. They will be pre-painted to a level better than 90% of gamers can produce themselves – and that is no idle boast, as you can see from these pictures.

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These two tanks, the Challenger 2 and the Abrams M1A2 are pre-production designs (the finals will be far, far more detailed), but the paintwork is to the standard you will be able to expect. Over the next few weeks, we will be previewing the final designs of the first armoured vehicles in the range, along with the infantry that march alongside them.

Added to this, we are aiming to price these extremely well-produced models for no more than the equivalent unpainted metal miniatures prices. I’ll rephrase that – what you pay for unpainted metal miniatures today will buy you expert-level pre-painted miniatures early next year.

STARSHIP TROOPERS EVOLUTION
We will be making more announcements with regards to Battlefield Evolution very soon. However, fans of Starship Troopers will be wondering where we are going for their game.

With a release date set for April next year, we will be releasing eight box sets for Starship Troopers – the Mobile Infantry Light Armour Squad, the Mobile Infantry Grizzly Exosuit Squad, Arachnid Warrior Bug Swarm (we are aiming to squeeze 12 bugs in this!), Tanker Bug, Skinnie Raiders, Skinnie Soldiers, Forth Fenos Fighting Machines and Forth Fenirs Command Fighting Machines.

Some models, those that we believe are of exemplary quality in design, are being used as the prototypes for the new range – these are the ones we can preview here, the Exosuits, Light Armour MI and Warrior Bugs. All others in the list above are in the process of being redesigned.

A funny story here. The factory producing these models played a little trick on us. The first batch of Warrior Bugs that came back to us included three models – two they had produced, and the original they had worked on, painted by our expert in-house painter, Adrian Walters.

We could not tell the difference. In fact, not even Adrian could tell the difference between his work and theirs!
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Note: This is not a collectible game! Every box set will be labelled with it’s contents, and will feature a plastic window so you can see exactly what you are getting! In addition to this, the type of plastic used will be of wargaming quality – don’t expect to see guns that bend or models that feel like a child’s toy.

Each box set will contain a streamlined version of the rules, allowing people to start playing the moment they pick up the models – and this will not be a watered down ‘pint-size’ game, but one you can run serious tournaments with. The full-size rulebook, priced at $24.95 and available 2-3 months after the first box sets, will not contain radically different rules, but rather lean more towards new options and methods of play – for those who want the full Starship Troopers experience!

After the first eight box sets have been released, we will produce one box set every month thereafter for each army, meaning you will never have to wait long for something new and interesting to come along for your force. The models themselves will be based on existing designs where we feel we have excelled ourselves (such as with the Exosuits) and will be changed where we feel we can do a lot better, such as with some of the Skinnies.

So, why should you feel this is a good thing?

* With the instant accessibility to the game, due to both the rules and the high standard of pre-painted models, you will suddenly find you have a lot more opponents in your area.
* Four armies from the very start will ensure your local gaming club has enough choice for every gamer, and the release of a new unit every month thereafter will keep your opponents guessing! New armies (such as the dreaded Coven) will start appearing towards the end of 2007.
* Your comments on the existing rules have been collated and refined into an extremely slick set of mechanics that will provide everything you have been looking for with no ambiguity.
* All the Starship Troopers models you have in your collection thus far, without exception, will be fully compatible with the new wave of releases and, in many cases, veterans will have access to units far earlier than newcomers. The new models will be to the same scale as the existing models which mean you can add more units to your forces and have them fit in perfectly.
* As far as the rules are concerned, if you wish to stick with the existing rulebook rather than buy another, we will support you, releasing the relevant information on new units and armies for no cost. At all.
* That said, the new rules will be posted on our web site for free download, allowing you to review them before making an informed decision about which you will use. We hope you will join us with the new wave, but we will not force you.
* Roughly 90% of you will have access to great looking models at a price that has not been possible up to now. These will be models that you would be proud to have on display on your shelf.
* The remaining 10% will have the option of either adding further detail and highlights to the models, or simply repainting them entirely – the price of each set means you are not losing out by paying for the painting process.
* The existing models will still be available to you via your local hobby store or by mail order. While we expect the demand for these to drop away once people see the new models available, stores and distributors will always be able to stock any of the existing Starship Troopers miniatures for those of you who want to buy the traditional metal and plastic figures.
* The design process for these models has been well and truly hammered out, meaning there is no barrier to the release of certain models that have, up to now, encountered certain difficulties. When you see, for example, the TAC Fighter, Skyhook and Sprite Skimmer Bikes on the release schedule, you can be sure that will be the month they appear in the shops.
* If you really fancy a very strange game, Starship Troopers will be fully compatible with Battlefield Evolution so yes, your US Marines could find themselves facing a horde of Warrior Bugs – though we do not recommend it for the sane!

In short, we can sum up 2007 for Starship Troopers as;

Better game. Better models. Same great system.

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ich hoffe mal die minis werden besser bemalt sein, also das was man bisher von rackhams AT-43 gesehen hat.
 
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With a release date set for April next year, we will be releasing eight box sets for Starship Troopers – the Mobile Infantry Light Armour Squad..... [/b]

Wie bitte :blink: ,die gibt es doch schon zukaufen wofür nochmal realesen?
Oder kann ich in die zukunft reisen??Den bei mir leigen noch ungefär 20 von den
Leutz(grundiert),oder hab ich das was falsch verstanden??


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* If you really fancy a very strange game, Starship Troopers will be fully compatible with Battlefield Evolution so yes, your US Marines could find themselves facing a horde of Warrior Bugs – though we do not recommend it for the sane!
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Totaler B.S


CDI
 
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Wie bitte, die gibt es doch schon zukaufen wofür nochmal realesen?[/b]

wie im text zu lesen werden die modelle alle neu aufgelegt. und zwar mit etwas anderem material und das ganze auch noch vorbemalt. leis dir doch mal den gesamten text durch, dann verstehst du es auch.
 
die finanziellen ausgaben sind nicht mal so groß, sie lassen ja in asien produzieren, also müssen sie garnicht die ganzen maschinen kaufen und bemalen lassen sie dort auch gleich und wenn man sich da den stundenlohn anschaut, sieht man das die eigentlich garnicht mal so viel bezahlen müssen. rackham macht es ja auf die gleiche weise mit AT-43.

bin aber gespannt wie sie dieses neue system gestalten werden, bzw. wie genau die armeen ausehen werden. ich sehe schon eingie spielberichte wo amrikanische streitmächte gegen orientalische truppen antreten.
 
Also das Battlefield Evolution trifft ja genau meinen Nerv. Gibt ja schon jede Menge Figuren zu modernen Armeen, viellicht endlich mal ein gutes System dazu. Ich kenn das Starship Troopers Regelwerk noch nicht, hoffe DPD bringts heut endlich.

Orient gegen USA: Dann kann man den Amis endlich mal zeigen wo der Hammer hängt, hoffentlich kommen auch noch IDF raus, dann gehts voll ab im Nahen Osten. 😛

Der Challenger sieht ja vielversprechend aus, der Abrams aber naja, is ja noch Zeit bis zum Release. Sind ja laut Aussage noch nicht die finalen Modelle.
 
schau dir mal das magazin "Signs & Portents Wargamer - 36", von dem Dark Warrior gesprochen hat, an.

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/sp36wargame.pdf

da findest du noch weitere bilder und ein paar infos zum spielt. es soll ja ca. im jahr 2010 -2015 angesiedelt sein. da findest du unter anderem ein bild von einem Typ 99 MBT und ein Toyota Hilux mit einem MG auf der hinteren ladefläche. im mongoose forum waren auch schon sachen zu lesen, wie das es auch hubschrauber "longbow" usw. geben soll.

armeen soll es erstmal folgende geben

United States Marine Corps: The original
gung-ho military service, with all the technology
provided by the USA. The fi rst two sets released
for the USMC will be an infantry squad,
equipped with advanced Land Warrior sets (an
array of digital and optic enhancements that
allow marines to dominate the battlefi eld), and
the M1A2 Abrams main battle tank.


European Union Coalition: They keep talking
about a combined force for Europe – we will
be bringing it to you a great deal sooner! We
are kicking off with the British Army (what
else?), with a FIST – Future Infantry Soldier
Technology, similar to the US Land Warrior
programme – equipped infantry section and
the Challenger II main battle tank. Arguments
can now commence as to which is the best
tank in the world! We have a few more units
for the British Army on the way, but will soon
be expanding this force to include units from
France, Germany and many other countries of
the European Union.


Middle Eastern Alliance: Covering a range
of forces from government troops to militia
desperately trying to hold back the tide of
oppressors eager to snatch their country’s
resources. This army does not always enjoy the
latest in technology but it gains weaponry from
a wide variety of sources and has no shortage
of volunteers. The fi rst units to appear will be
an infantry squad armed with AK’s and RPGs,
along with a converted Hilux pick up – and as
viewers of Top Gear will be aware, this vehicle is
probably indestructible!


People’s Liberation Army: Often regarded as a
second-rate force, the Chinese PLA of the near
future will have access to not only unlimited
manpower but also technology that can catch
a western commander off balance if he has too
many preconceptions. As well as an infantry
squad (which, because of its armament, is one of
the most versatile in the game), the PLA will be
getting the Type 99 main battle tank in the fi rst
month of releases.
There has already been a lot of discussion about
new armies for Battlefi eld Evolution in our offi ce
and among our playtesters. Everything from
the US Army and the Israeli Defence Force to
African Warlords and other militaries around the
world have been suggested. We will likely hold a
poll on our forums to decide which gets tackled
next, once you have had a chance to get used to
the game and try the existing armies out.
 
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@Bemalstandart:

Schöner als das hier wird er wohl hoffentlich sein:

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Die Miniaturen sehen besser aus, das Problem ist das es bisher keine profesionell gemachten Bilder gibt. Die Miniaturen sind wirklich gut gemacht was Design und Bemalung angeht.... 😛h34r:
 
Beil Vergleich von Profi und Amateur-Bildern bin ich immer recht vorsichtig.

Der eine hatte min. 4 große Tageslichtlampen um alles perfekt auszuleuchten und auch das Pastellpapier sorgt für eine angenehme Farbstimmung... der andere hat im Vorebigehen mit Blitz gearbeitet. Das läßt sich nur schwer vergleichen.... mit der richtigen Ausleuchtung sieht jede Figur gut aus... auch MageKnight.

Persönlich mag ich nur basegrundierte Figuren am liebsten. so kann ich selber noch drübergrundieren wenn es mir überhaupt nicht gefällt und so keine Details verdecken. Oder ich kann auf die schnelle mit Drybrushing das ganze gut verbessern.
 
spielt schon eine rolle, schließlich bezahlt man das bemalen der minis.



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In January, for BF Evo, you can expect to see;

EFTF British Army Infantry Section
EFTF British Army Challenger 2
MEA Infantry Squad
MEA Hilux Trucks
USXF USMC Infantry Squad
USXF USMC M1A2 Abrams
PLA Infantry Squad
PLA Type 99 MBT

In February;

EFTF British Army Infantry Command Section (with Warrior)
MEA Fedayeen Squad
USXF USMC Shadow RST-V
PLA WZ-551 IFV

In March;

EFTF British Army SAS Patrol
MEA 2S6 Tunguska
USXF USMC Force Recon Team
PLA Infantry Command Squad (with WZ-506)

And then things get really interesting - Future lynx, TY-90s, the French Foreign Legion and many, many more![/b]
 
Wenn ich mir die Release-Liste so ansehen bestätigt sich mein Verdacht das BattlefieldEvo sich stark an Battlefield 2 anlehnt. Mal sehn was die Zukunft noch so bringt, aber ich find die Idee immernoch sehr ansprechend.

Als äußert malfauler Spieler kann ich dem Pre-Painted jede Menge abgewinnen. Auch wenn der Standard nicht grad soooo berauschend ist, so gibt es doch so Krücken wie mir die Möglichkeit mit bemalten Armeen zu spielen.

Und laut Mongoose soll das Pre-Painted den Preis nicht in die Höhe treiben. Also erstmal abwarten...
 
Also die MEC/MEA ist eine Erfindung von DICE/EA für Battlefield 2. Das Konzept einer geeinten Muslim-Force ist also schon abgekuckt IMHO. Mir wäre zumindest keine ähnliche Organisation bewßt die es zur Zeit gibt oder die in Planung wäre.

Auch die Konstellation genau diese vier Parteien in einer nicht allzufernen Zukunft aufeinanderzutreffen lassen ist sehr ähnlich.

Schlußendlich auch noch der Name Battlefield.

Also ich denke es ist zumindest stark davon inspiriert!!