Ich schätze,es ist klar was ich will.Kein rumjammer,flamen oder sowas wie "die Regel ist Müll"-nur tatsächliche FAQ-Fragen.Dank geht an den Trugbild-Thread.
Sinn der Sache:Wenn man diese Aktion in genug großen Foren durchzieht,gelingt es möglicherweise sowas,wie Druck aufzubauen.Daher fänd ich es schön,wenn ein paar User das hier auch bei kriegshammer und wargate starten könnten.
Wir wählen als Stichtag mal den letzten Tag im Juli.Dann tragen wir alle Ergebnisse zusammen,setzten ein schönes "The Users of..."drunter und schicken es ab.
Weniger als nichts bringt es nicht.Der Vorteil ist,das man mal alle strittigen Punkte auf einen Schlag hat.
Ich wage es einfach mal,bestimmte Fragen nicht aufzunehmen (die Techmarine Servoharnisch+Terminatorrüstung),da diese einfach selbstbeantwortbar sind.Ich liste
sie seperat.
Der Einfachheit halber in englisch:
Generelle Fragen (ich würde hier keine Antwort erwarten,da FAQs üblicherweise auf Codex-Basis erscheinen)
-Should all entrys in all Books named in the same way use the same rules (e.g.
bionics,Land Raider,Assault Cannon etc)?
-Are IC with Retinue still ICs?
-May Units with Fleet of Foot use this rule in a turn they enterd the table via deep strike?
Codex Space Marines
-May the Techmarine be equipped with Servo-harness and Bike/jumppack?
-May the Techmarine use Servo-Arm with Bike/Jumppack?
-Does the Plasmapistol of the Servoharness count as additional CloseCombat
Weapon?
-May the ability "rites of battle" be used if the commander is not on the table (deep
striking or in a vehicle?)
-Does the familiar of a libarian slow him down if he uses a bike/jumppack?
-Does "Be swift as the wind" include Scout Bikes and Attack Bikes?
-How many places does an modell with terminator armour occupie,when transported in a vehicle?
-Which chapter may use Drop Pods?
-Does the Psychic Power "Fury of the Ancients" require line of sight?
Codex Chaos Space Marines
-Do the limitations concerning Infiltrate still apply? I.e.: May a Daemon Prince with
Stature, a model/unit with the Mark of Khorne or with a bike now infiltrate? There is
great rumour about this as the Infiltrate rule in the RB does not state any limitations,
but is supposed to replace the rules in the codices.
-Is the Slaanesh power "Siren" meant to work both in the Shooting and the Assault
phase, making the model virtually invulnerable? To us this would seem to be a great imbalance.
- How does the Lash of Torment work in 4th edition if given to an Independent character? As the model counts as a separate unit in close combat it seems to be useless: At least one model of the own unit must be in base to base contact in order to get the attacks, so the character does not count as being in CC and may therefore not strike.
-Do IC with a mark of chaos get a free chaos icon?
-Can you use “feel no pain” to ignore wounds caused by the psychic ability “mind war”,dangerous terrain or perils of the warp?
-What is meant with “area of effect” in the description of the rule “collar of Khorne”? Is this supposed to be the area, where the psychic ability CAN affect, or is this the area, where it actually affects? Can i.e. a psychic ability be blocked, which is not targeted at the bearer? Can the ability of a tyranid synaptic creature be blocked, if the bearer is within 12” around it?
-Can a model with a berserker glaive be equipped with daemonic speed or daemonic flight?
-If the aspiring champion of a Khorne berzerker unit gets daemonic speed or daemonic flight, does the whole unit not throw a dice anymore, to check if it has to rush towards the next enemy?
-Are independent Charachters with the Mark of Tzeentch allowed to take Veteran Skills?
-Are Screamers of Tzeentch an Raptors allowed to fall back in the following situations?
a) they fight against a unit and kill all their members
b) they fight against a Vehicle without a WS (i.e a Leman Russ) and don't destroy it
c) they fight against a Vehicle without a WS and destroy it
-Do you re-roll alreadey rerolled throws for choosing minor psychic powers? E.g., when you throw 3 dices and roll a 1 and 2 threes. You reroll the 3 and get another 3. Can you reroll this throw again?
Codex Tyranids
-Do multiple Lash Whips equipped on one creature stack?
-Do Lash Whips effects stack from multiple models equipped with them?
-Does two twin-linked weapons mean it's double twin-linked or two separate
twin-linked weapons?
-If a Hive Tyrant or Carnifex (MC's that can shoot more than 1 weapon a turn) take 2
of the same weapon (making them twin-linked), can they then fire both as separate
TL weapons?
-Does being Fearless make Lictors and Carnifexes immune to the effects of failing an
IB test (falling back)?
-Can broods without the line "must be equipped identically"(such as Warriors and
Genestealers) be fitted with different biomorphs through out the brood? (ex: only
buy 1 feeder tendril, since the benefits aren't limited to just the 'stealer with them)
-Are the Adrenal Glands for WS and I considered to be separate biomorphs for the
purposes of "same biomorph cannot be taken more than once per model"?
-The Shadow in the Warp power says "any Perils of the Warp results are nullified." Is
this just for your enemy or does it affect your army too?
-Does synapse make a tyranid immune to instant death by weapons that have a
strength over double the toughness value of the creature in synapse range?
-How does The Shadow in The Warp interact with the Eldar Runes of Witnessing?
-May deep-striking units choose to lurk on the turn they arrive?
-Can a warrior in a Warrior brood be given multiples of the heavy weapons?
-Can winged warriors be taken as an HQ choice?
-Can a Lictor hit and run after attacking a vehicle?
-Does a Lictor that deep strikes on top of another (friendly) Lictor get removed as a casualty?
-Suppose an enemy model deepstrikes withen 1" or onto a spore mine or mine cluster. which is destroyed, the mines, the enemy, or both?
-Are mace/scythe tail biomorphs subject to the benefits of rending?
-Was the split price for Barbed Stranglers on a Carnifex intended to be as such?
-Does the addition of Crushing Claws to a Carnifex count against MC's ability to roll 2D6 for AP?
-Do lash whips affect friendly models that are in base contact?
Codex Necrons
-How does the Deceiver's "Deceive" ability work when used against Fearless units? Do they have to flee in subsequent turns or will they regroup automatically. The first case would lead to strange problems where Khorne Berserkers could be "escorted" to the table edge.
Codex Demonhunters
-Who is the target of the mystic special ability?The Drop Pod or the
Squad/Dreadnought?
Codex Space Wolves
-May Space Wolves field two venerable Dreadnoughts?The one from the Codex and
a normal one with the "venerable" upgrade?
Codex Dark Angels
-Does "Stubborn" count against the limit of wargear a model may have?
-Does the Chaplain in a Deathwing Army have to buy "Stubborn"?
-If so,does ist override "Fearless"?
-May both versions of chaplains use the Blades of Reason?
-Do special characters gain all new benefits according to their rank?(e.g. rites of
battle?)
-Do the special standarts override the sacred standart in codex:sm?
-May Ravenwing Landspeeder Deep strike?
-May the ravenwing field a Techmarine if he has a bike?
NICHT AUFGENOMMEN
Allgemein:
-Darf ich Verluste durch die große Schablone auch frei wählen(wie bei der kleinen)?
-Wenn ich Waffen schnellfeuere, gilt dann der Radius in dem Verluste verursacht werden können,als 12"?
-Könne Psioniker nur eine Psikraft pro Zug verwenden?
-Sind die Hexenjäger/Dämonenjäger eine imperiale Armee?
Space Marines:
-Gilt Veil of Time für alle genannten Würfe?
-Darf der Techmarine ein Rhino/Razorback erhalten ohne Servitoren zu wählen?
-Darf ein Techmarine einen Servoharnisch und eine Terminatorrüstung erhalten?
-Sind Familiars Einzelmodelle?
Gelten die alten oder die neuen Regeln für Drop Pods,wenn ein Dreadnought sie verwenden will?
-Haben Scouts die Scout Sonderregel?
-Haben Scout Bikes die durch Gelände bewegen Sonderregel?
DARK ANGELS:
-Sind die Einträge aus dem CODEX SM so zu verstehen:
Großmeister=Meister,Meister=Captain,Held fällt weg?
-Sind die Gegenstände für Großmeister nun nur für Meister erhältlich?
-Dürfen Chars in Terminatorkommadotrupps immer schocken?
-Muss ich in einer Deathwing Armee nur noch Stubborn kaufen,wenn ich eine
Terminatorrüstung kaufe?
-Kann ich die Geheimnisklinge und ein Relikt kaufen?
-Sind die Blades of Reason ein Relikt?
-Darf der Deathwing einen Techmarine haben?
-Darf ein Ordenspriester in Terminatorrüstung die Blades of Reason verwenden?
-Darf eine Deathwing Armee Drop Pods verwenden?
-Verwenden Ravenwing Bikes,Attack Bikes,Landspeeder weiterhin alle Merkmale des
Codex😀A?
Blood Angels:
-Dürfen Blood Angels Chapter Traits oder besondere Fähigkeiten haben?
-Bekommen auch Servitoren den rasenden Angriff?
Space Wolves:
...das meiste was Mauga da aus dem Dev-Forum gefischt hat ^^°
Blood Angels:
ALLES was im Dev-Forum steht!
Tyraniden:
-Are IB tests meant to be LD based or Morale based?
-Would the benefit from the Symbiote Rippers biomorph take place before or after
the effects of the Thornback biomorph?
-If a Tyrant or Zoanthrope fail a Ld test in attempt to shoot the powered up version
of Warp Blast, can they still opt to use the low power version instead?
-Is an attack using the Bio-Plasma biomorph subject to the benefits of rending?
-Are SoB 'shield of faith', etc. considered to be wargear or an ability?
If an ability, are SoB with these abilities considered to be psykers? (for purposes of
hivemind power cancelling)
-Does bio-plasma still hit a skimmer or fast-moving vehicle on a roll of 4+?
-Do Rending Claws and MC's natural 2D6 stack?
Chaos:
-Do Chaos Space Marines with the “Rubric Sign” (p. 59) fight with Ini 4 in close combat and are allowed to make sweeping advances?
Sinn der Sache:Wenn man diese Aktion in genug großen Foren durchzieht,gelingt es möglicherweise sowas,wie Druck aufzubauen.Daher fänd ich es schön,wenn ein paar User das hier auch bei kriegshammer und wargate starten könnten.
Wir wählen als Stichtag mal den letzten Tag im Juli.Dann tragen wir alle Ergebnisse zusammen,setzten ein schönes "The Users of..."drunter und schicken es ab.
Weniger als nichts bringt es nicht.Der Vorteil ist,das man mal alle strittigen Punkte auf einen Schlag hat.
Ich wage es einfach mal,bestimmte Fragen nicht aufzunehmen (die Techmarine Servoharnisch+Terminatorrüstung),da diese einfach selbstbeantwortbar sind.Ich liste
sie seperat.
Der Einfachheit halber in englisch:
Generelle Fragen (ich würde hier keine Antwort erwarten,da FAQs üblicherweise auf Codex-Basis erscheinen)
-Should all entrys in all Books named in the same way use the same rules (e.g.
bionics,Land Raider,Assault Cannon etc)?
-Are IC with Retinue still ICs?
-May Units with Fleet of Foot use this rule in a turn they enterd the table via deep strike?
Codex Space Marines
-May the Techmarine be equipped with Servo-harness and Bike/jumppack?
-May the Techmarine use Servo-Arm with Bike/Jumppack?
-Does the Plasmapistol of the Servoharness count as additional CloseCombat
Weapon?
-May the ability "rites of battle" be used if the commander is not on the table (deep
striking or in a vehicle?)
-Does the familiar of a libarian slow him down if he uses a bike/jumppack?
-Does "Be swift as the wind" include Scout Bikes and Attack Bikes?
-How many places does an modell with terminator armour occupie,when transported in a vehicle?
-Which chapter may use Drop Pods?
-Does the Psychic Power "Fury of the Ancients" require line of sight?
Codex Chaos Space Marines
-Do the limitations concerning Infiltrate still apply? I.e.: May a Daemon Prince with
Stature, a model/unit with the Mark of Khorne or with a bike now infiltrate? There is
great rumour about this as the Infiltrate rule in the RB does not state any limitations,
but is supposed to replace the rules in the codices.
-Is the Slaanesh power "Siren" meant to work both in the Shooting and the Assault
phase, making the model virtually invulnerable? To us this would seem to be a great imbalance.
- How does the Lash of Torment work in 4th edition if given to an Independent character? As the model counts as a separate unit in close combat it seems to be useless: At least one model of the own unit must be in base to base contact in order to get the attacks, so the character does not count as being in CC and may therefore not strike.
-Do IC with a mark of chaos get a free chaos icon?
-Can you use “feel no pain” to ignore wounds caused by the psychic ability “mind war”,dangerous terrain or perils of the warp?
-What is meant with “area of effect” in the description of the rule “collar of Khorne”? Is this supposed to be the area, where the psychic ability CAN affect, or is this the area, where it actually affects? Can i.e. a psychic ability be blocked, which is not targeted at the bearer? Can the ability of a tyranid synaptic creature be blocked, if the bearer is within 12” around it?
-Can a model with a berserker glaive be equipped with daemonic speed or daemonic flight?
-If the aspiring champion of a Khorne berzerker unit gets daemonic speed or daemonic flight, does the whole unit not throw a dice anymore, to check if it has to rush towards the next enemy?
-Are independent Charachters with the Mark of Tzeentch allowed to take Veteran Skills?
-Are Screamers of Tzeentch an Raptors allowed to fall back in the following situations?
a) they fight against a unit and kill all their members
b) they fight against a Vehicle without a WS (i.e a Leman Russ) and don't destroy it
c) they fight against a Vehicle without a WS and destroy it
-Do you re-roll alreadey rerolled throws for choosing minor psychic powers? E.g., when you throw 3 dices and roll a 1 and 2 threes. You reroll the 3 and get another 3. Can you reroll this throw again?
Codex Tyranids
-Do multiple Lash Whips equipped on one creature stack?
-Do Lash Whips effects stack from multiple models equipped with them?
-Does two twin-linked weapons mean it's double twin-linked or two separate
twin-linked weapons?
-If a Hive Tyrant or Carnifex (MC's that can shoot more than 1 weapon a turn) take 2
of the same weapon (making them twin-linked), can they then fire both as separate
TL weapons?
-Does being Fearless make Lictors and Carnifexes immune to the effects of failing an
IB test (falling back)?
-Can broods without the line "must be equipped identically"(such as Warriors and
Genestealers) be fitted with different biomorphs through out the brood? (ex: only
buy 1 feeder tendril, since the benefits aren't limited to just the 'stealer with them)
-Are the Adrenal Glands for WS and I considered to be separate biomorphs for the
purposes of "same biomorph cannot be taken more than once per model"?
-The Shadow in the Warp power says "any Perils of the Warp results are nullified." Is
this just for your enemy or does it affect your army too?
-Does synapse make a tyranid immune to instant death by weapons that have a
strength over double the toughness value of the creature in synapse range?
-How does The Shadow in The Warp interact with the Eldar Runes of Witnessing?
-May deep-striking units choose to lurk on the turn they arrive?
-Can a warrior in a Warrior brood be given multiples of the heavy weapons?
-Can winged warriors be taken as an HQ choice?
-Can a Lictor hit and run after attacking a vehicle?
-Does a Lictor that deep strikes on top of another (friendly) Lictor get removed as a casualty?
-Suppose an enemy model deepstrikes withen 1" or onto a spore mine or mine cluster. which is destroyed, the mines, the enemy, or both?
-Are mace/scythe tail biomorphs subject to the benefits of rending?
-Was the split price for Barbed Stranglers on a Carnifex intended to be as such?
-Does the addition of Crushing Claws to a Carnifex count against MC's ability to roll 2D6 for AP?
-Do lash whips affect friendly models that are in base contact?
Codex Necrons
-How does the Deceiver's "Deceive" ability work when used against Fearless units? Do they have to flee in subsequent turns or will they regroup automatically. The first case would lead to strange problems where Khorne Berserkers could be "escorted" to the table edge.
Codex Demonhunters
-Who is the target of the mystic special ability?The Drop Pod or the
Squad/Dreadnought?
Codex Space Wolves
-May Space Wolves field two venerable Dreadnoughts?The one from the Codex and
a normal one with the "venerable" upgrade?
Codex Dark Angels
-Does "Stubborn" count against the limit of wargear a model may have?
-Does the Chaplain in a Deathwing Army have to buy "Stubborn"?
-If so,does ist override "Fearless"?
-May both versions of chaplains use the Blades of Reason?
-Do special characters gain all new benefits according to their rank?(e.g. rites of
battle?)
-Do the special standarts override the sacred standart in codex:sm?
-May Ravenwing Landspeeder Deep strike?
-May the ravenwing field a Techmarine if he has a bike?
NICHT AUFGENOMMEN
Allgemein:
-Darf ich Verluste durch die große Schablone auch frei wählen(wie bei der kleinen)?
-Wenn ich Waffen schnellfeuere, gilt dann der Radius in dem Verluste verursacht werden können,als 12"?
-Könne Psioniker nur eine Psikraft pro Zug verwenden?
-Sind die Hexenjäger/Dämonenjäger eine imperiale Armee?
Space Marines:
-Gilt Veil of Time für alle genannten Würfe?
-Darf der Techmarine ein Rhino/Razorback erhalten ohne Servitoren zu wählen?
-Darf ein Techmarine einen Servoharnisch und eine Terminatorrüstung erhalten?
-Sind Familiars Einzelmodelle?
Gelten die alten oder die neuen Regeln für Drop Pods,wenn ein Dreadnought sie verwenden will?
-Haben Scouts die Scout Sonderregel?
-Haben Scout Bikes die durch Gelände bewegen Sonderregel?
DARK ANGELS:
-Sind die Einträge aus dem CODEX SM so zu verstehen:
Großmeister=Meister,Meister=Captain,Held fällt weg?
-Sind die Gegenstände für Großmeister nun nur für Meister erhältlich?
-Dürfen Chars in Terminatorkommadotrupps immer schocken?
-Muss ich in einer Deathwing Armee nur noch Stubborn kaufen,wenn ich eine
Terminatorrüstung kaufe?
-Kann ich die Geheimnisklinge und ein Relikt kaufen?
-Sind die Blades of Reason ein Relikt?
-Darf der Deathwing einen Techmarine haben?
-Darf ein Ordenspriester in Terminatorrüstung die Blades of Reason verwenden?
-Darf eine Deathwing Armee Drop Pods verwenden?
-Verwenden Ravenwing Bikes,Attack Bikes,Landspeeder weiterhin alle Merkmale des
Codex😀A?
Blood Angels:
-Dürfen Blood Angels Chapter Traits oder besondere Fähigkeiten haben?
-Bekommen auch Servitoren den rasenden Angriff?
Space Wolves:
...das meiste was Mauga da aus dem Dev-Forum gefischt hat ^^°
Blood Angels:
ALLES was im Dev-Forum steht!
Tyraniden:
-Are IB tests meant to be LD based or Morale based?
-Would the benefit from the Symbiote Rippers biomorph take place before or after
the effects of the Thornback biomorph?
-If a Tyrant or Zoanthrope fail a Ld test in attempt to shoot the powered up version
of Warp Blast, can they still opt to use the low power version instead?
-Is an attack using the Bio-Plasma biomorph subject to the benefits of rending?
-Are SoB 'shield of faith', etc. considered to be wargear or an ability?
If an ability, are SoB with these abilities considered to be psykers? (for purposes of
hivemind power cancelling)
-Does bio-plasma still hit a skimmer or fast-moving vehicle on a roll of 4+?
-Do Rending Claws and MC's natural 2D6 stack?
Chaos:
-Do Chaos Space Marines with the “Rubric Sign” (p. 59) fight with Ini 4 in close combat and are allowed to make sweeping advances?