W40k-6th Edition kommt 2012 !

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EDIT BY MF GREG 25.06.2012:

Wieder eine kleine Zusammenfassung! Einiges ist schon bekannt, aber doch auch einiges was für den ein oder anderen neu ist:
(Stormraven bei Vanillas gelistet find ich interessant):

VIA Natfka.Bogspot/Faeit 212:

Here is a Question and Answer session with someone sitting down with the rulebook. He even answers the "whats on page 42?" question. So check it out, there is quite a bit here, and some of it we aleady know, but its nice to hear it again.

Questions answered via Rixitotal. The questions were from tons of different people. MadCowCrazy from Heresy Online was one, the rest are misc and unfamiliar names. (I didnt look too hard).

Battle Brothers: Good can join each others units with IC's and cast psychic powers as if they were friendly.

Allies of convienance: Cant join units or cast friendly powers

Desperate Allies: Have to roll if within 6" of an allied unit. if they roll a 1, they cannot do anything.

Necrons Allies:no battle brothers. allies of conveniance with chaos marines, gery knights (!!), tau and orcs. cant ally with deamons, any eldar or nids. all the rest are desperate allies. Desperate allies with Templars and Blood Angels

Missions
-normal one D3 +2 objectives. - one where heavy support can claim objectives and you get extra points for killing heavy support.- same with fast attack. -a kill point one.- one where there is a relic you take and move with thats basically an objective.- and a capture and control-ish one.


Whats on pg 42?
lol 42 has unviersal special rules. skyfire (AA), slow and purposeful, smash, sniper, soul blaze, specialist weapon, spilt fire, stealth and strafing run.

Detachments
can take an allied detachment or something. must have 1 HQ and 1 Troop, and may have 1 more troop and 1 of each other slot except HQ. there is a table of who can ally with who and how good friends they are. good friends can join each others unit with independent chars and cast physic powers as if they were friendly. middle friends cant do that. and bad friends have to roll at the begging of each turn if they are withing 6, if they roll a 1 they cant do anything. and a lot of armies can ally at all. nids cant ally with anyone.

What about powers, say a blood angels sanguinary priest with a feel no pain 6" buff. will that work across armies? Even if it specifically says "any friendly units" for some armies? Or have GW gone down the "nope, separate for all" route?
probs one for the FAQ, allies specifically talks about physic powers. ps FnP is now 5+.

you get FnP against anything that dosnt cause instant death.
power swords are AP 3. Axes +1 S, AP2 and make you I 1. then there are mauls and spears that are lame.
it says any power weapons unspecified you must look at the model and see what they have for what kind of power weapon they have.

You still cannot assault out of deepstrike correct? Turn order is the same?
yea thats all the same.

Has fearless changed when you lose a combat? So no more lots of wounds taken when you lose a combat just because you're not scared of anyone?
hmmmm just says they pass moral tests... i can find anything anywhere that says they take extra wounds.... holy crap!

What are the rules for infantry types (jump, MC, etc.)?
What is the deal with charges?
What does preferred enemy do?
Hull points?
jump move 12, re roll charge dice (2D6) get a impact hits (called hammer of wrath). bikes turbo boost in shooting phase 12 (jet bikes 24, eldar jetbikes 36!!! for a total of 48inch move in 1 turn). charges are 2D6, and u can overwatch against it witch is every model gets to shoot at BS1 except heavy weapons. preferred enemy is reroll all hits and wounds that roll a 1, from shooting and combat!!! hull points are taken off by glancing hits. all gone = wreck. most vehicles have 3. land raider have 4, vipers have 2.

cover is 5+ sorry, ruins is 4+, most everything else is 5+ including shooting through troops. but you only need to have 25% hidden or troops or tanks to get cover.

How does wound allocation work for multi wounded models and different wargear on such models?

closest to furthest. wargear makes no difference.

Has the turn order changed or is it still Move->Shoot->Assault? What is the terrify USR that Chaos Daemons get now?
turns are the same. and its fear for demons. its a LD test or become WS1. fearless units and know no fear and immune to it.

Can units that have successfully completed an assault consolidate into a new combat?

Does assaulting into difficult terrain still reduce initiative to 1?
no cant consolidate in to new enemies. and yea makes the assaulting unit I 1.

runs do disallow assaults. fleet dosnt overcome this but lets you reroll your charge. ill have a crack at tables in a bit. yea chars and snipers that roll a 6 to hit can allocate the wound to a legal model. no changes to deep strike except the new (nicer) table.


Assulting through cover: roll and extra dice and take away the highest. and then you are I 1 unless you have assault grenades then its normal I order.

runs do disallow assaults. fleet dosnt overcome this but lets you reroll your charge. ill have a crack at tables in a bit. yea chars and snipers that roll a 6 to hit can allocate the wound to a legal model. no changes to deep strike except the new (nicer) table.

whats with shooting with vehicles? is it still one weapon and all defensive weapons?
its basically the same except any weapons you could not have previously shot can be snap shotted, so hit on a 6+.
How does the USR rage work now? Any changes allowing u control would make death companies viable if not a bit beast.

rage is ONLY +2 attacks on the charge. Death company are amazing now.

Are there any changes to Force Organisation? If so, what?
at 2000 pts you can take 2 FoCs. and 1 fortification slot. aside from that not much.

Another wound allocation question. In a multi armoured unit (think terminator wolf guard leading a power armoured wearing squad).
How does the wound thing work?
Is it the terminator 2+ save over and over until he finally dies then the rest of the squad? Or is it still a majority armour save applying?
no you take the armour save of the closest model if its different until he dies. but chars transfer it to the squad before armour saves one a 2+ so no having 1 wolfgaurd in termie Armour protecting a whole squad.

all things on flying bases are flyers as far as i can see. storm ravens are listen under the vanilla space marine section also!!!!!

Can a model still only make one save? What about ICs?
yup one save. except FnP of course

How fast can a vehicle move before passengers are unable to shoot from it?
flatout.

Was the to hit chart rumors true? bs3 hitting moving infantry on 4+ and stationary tanks on 2+ etc
no thats not in it anywhere. you hit the same as 5th

play a Thunderwolf list and was wondering with the random charge distance will they then get a 12" movement? Also, are there any rule changes with Beasts and Cavalry other than that? Thanks
yea move 12, then assult 2D6 rerolling cos of fleet.

What do you need to hit a vehicle in CC depending on how far its moved.

3+. but u cant attack zooming flyers in combat at all.

Any changes to instant death or do multi-wound models like battlesuits and nid warriors still get gibbed by missiles?
its the same, double S is insta death.

Do buildings have Hull Points? Can beasts go into buildings? Template Weapons, how are they fired? Reserve Rolls? 3+ Turn 2? 2+ Turn 3? Automatically come in Turn 4?

yea they have hull points. the rest is all the same as 5th

Does relentless do anything other than allow units to assault after firing rapid fire? Extra shots? anything?
no, just can move and shoot and shoot and assult with heavy and rapid fire weapons.

What are the rules for fortification slot? Is there a point limit? What are some options and their relative point cost to each other?
all the fortifcation stuff already has a GW terrain model. teh walls are 50pts. bastion 75, and the big darkangel fort, yes the massive one is over 200.

Still hit a vehicle in the rear armour in close combat? A power axe might be a fairly decent anti vehicle weapon if so.

Can you double check the power axe? Is it minus 1 to Initiative or is it specifically I1? Request from warseer.
has the unwieldy rule same as a powerfist. make you I 1. and yes still rear Armour.

Can you ally with yourself to expand your FOC?
no you may not. but at 2000 pts u get a second FOC if u want it

When you perform Overwatch, is it possible to kill enough models so they dont actually make the distance into CC with you?

If 2 or more units charge 1 unit, can you overwatch both of them? If 4 units charge 2 units, can both units shoot each unit or is it limited to 1 charging unit only?
Any change to Swarms? Still double wounds from blast and template?
swarms are the same.
you over watch first and take from teh front. so yea can affect assults. only 1 over watch a turn.

EDIT BY MF GREG 24.06.2012:

Detaillliertere Gerüchte von Hive/Warseer :

"I already read some of 6th rule book there were no % in using slot

however here is something about 6th
(credit ZAlpha)

Core System

- Change to Pre-Measure like WHFB 8th Edition.
- Force Organization Chart is still in use, no use of Percentage
- Adding new FoC Slot called "Fortification" [0-1] / see below
- Phases remains the same, Movement, Shooting, and then Assault
- No Psychic Phase
- No Initiative Phase


Movement Phase
- Movement is pretty much the same. Infantry can move 6", Jump Infantry 12" and so on.

Shooting Phase
- Rapid Fire weapons can now fire at target 24" away irregardless of moving or not. (or choose to fire twice at target 12" away)
- Pistol is pretty much the same.
- New Weapon type "Salvo" - firing at max. range & max. shots if not move, or 1/2 range and 1/2 shots if moving.
- Heavy Weapon can now be fired on the move, but will be subjected to 'snap fire' rule.
- "Snap Fire" allows certain weapon types to shoot even if moving, but with a BS of 1 (ie. 6 to hit)
- Blast Weapons cannot "snap fire"
- You can only killed as much models in target unit as you can actually see (and within max range).
- Casualties are now removed from closest to furthest.
- Wound Allocation is completely changed.
- When shooting at unit partially in cover, player can choose to "Focus Fire" to kill only models in the open (or in a less covered position).
- You can now throw (most) grenades in the Shooting Phase at the range of 8", limited to 1 grenade per unit per Phase.


Assault Phase
- Charge Distance is now 2D6" adding together.
- Unit can elect to "Overwatch" if being assaulted. Simply a "Stand and Shoot 40K version" - resolved at BS1, Template does D3 hit instead.
- Overwatch can be done only once per turn.
- Unit declaring multiple assaults will suffer from "Disoriented Charge" (not get +1A)
- Unit assaulting multiple enemy unit is subjected to multiple Overwatch.
- Unlike Stand & Shoot, Overwatch does NOT cause Morale Check or Pinning.
- Pile-in reduced to 3" and is done at the model's Initiative Step (ie. before the model could strike)
- Casualties are removed from the front rank, like the case of Shooting Phase
- Units can elect to auto-fail Morale Check at the end of Combat if all models in the unit cannot hurt the attacker at all (ie. S3 vs T10).
- Challenges are in for IC.
- Close-Combat Weapon now have AP value, ranging from AP- to AP1. Pistols don't grant more bonus than in 5th Edition.
- Power SWORD and Lightning Claws are "S: as user" AP3, though Power AXE is S+1, AP2, but is subjected to penalties (Initiative Reduced)
- Fists and Chainfists are Sx2 AP2 and Unwieldy (Intiative reduced to 1), Thunder Hammers has "Concussive" (the exact (or almost) same rules as in 5th Edition)


Vehicles
- Vehicles are now limited to move at the maximum of 12" in the Movement Phase (though it can move further in the Shooting Phase if desired)
- Vehicles can opt to move "Flat Out" in the Shooting Phase, adding an extra 6".
- Vehicles movement and weapons. Defensive and Primary Weapons are gone. You can fire all of your weapons at most of the time. But moving faster will result in less weapon fired at basic BS, the rest will be fired at BS1 (Snap Fire)
- Fast Skimmer moving Flat Out can be more lethal (fire more weapons than in 5th and moving faster [12" Normal + 18" Flat Out])
- Skimmer got a cover save called Jink, basically 5+ cover save and improved to 4+ if going Flat Out.
- Vehicles count as WS0 (auto-hit) if stationary and WS1 (3+ hit) if moved. No idea on how Fast or Skimmer will have bonus, as cover aren't used in Assault.
- Flyers are now in, with its own rules.
- Flyers can move very fast and is hard to target (6 only to hit) unless the shooter has Skystrike rules that allow them to shoot flyer at normal BS.
- When moving fast (called "Zooming") Flyers cannot move less than 12" and cannot disembark any models.

Vehicle and Damage
- New Vehicle Damage Chart, one to rule them all. 1-2 being Shaken, 3 Stunned, 4 and 5 Weapon Destroyed and Immobilised, and 6 Explodes! You only roll the table if the shot penetrate the Armour. Wrecks occur only from taking certain amount of Glancing Hits.
- AP 2 weapons add +1 to the chart, while AP1 adds +2.
- AP"-" is no longer -1 on the table.
- Open-Topped is +1 as well.
- No more "Half Strength if the center hole is off", you always use full strength for any blast that hits the vehicle.
- Hull Points - a new style "wound" for vehicles. Any Glancing Hits removes 1 Hull Point, Penetrate Hit removes 1 Hull Point as well as rolling on the Damage Chart above. If reduced to 0 HP, the vehicle becomes Wreck.
- Vehicles has 3 or 4 HP, notable 4 HP vehicles are Ghost Ark, Land Raider, and Monolith. Details can be found in the rulebook appendix. (Bloodwing stated that some player propose that the formula for Hull Points is Front + Side(once) + Rear divide by 3. Fractions rounding down - this seems to be true.


Vehicle and Passenger
- Passenger can only disembark if vehicle move 0-6".
- Disembarking rules changes, you now place models in base contact with the access point and move up to 6" - this is the furthest distance the unit may move.
- Embarking is pretty much the same.
- Unit count as moving if the vehicle moved 0.1-6", and can only "Snap Fire" if the vehicle move 6.01 - 12"
- Open-topped transport rules are the same (access points and fire points)
- Exploding Flyer that has "zoomed" will result in a S10 no armour save on its passenger. And some sort of S6 Large Blast at any unit under the point the vehicle goes on flame.


Psychic Power
- NO PSYCHIC PHASE (or whatever people are assuming they are)
- Perils of the Warp causes one wound, no saves of any kind allowed.
- Types of psychic power, witchfire (psychic shooting attack), focused witchfire (has a chance to allow player to choose the target model when removing casualty by rolling low scores on Psychic Test), nova (affects all enemy units within range), maelstrom (affecting both friendly and enemy within range), blessing (augmented friend), and malediction (de-buff enemy).
- "Deny the Witch" - every models/units have a slight chance to nullify the effect of psychic power (6+). Chances increase if your unit has Psyker.
- Psychic Hood is reduced to 4+ Deny the Witch if the target of the power is within 6" of the wearer.
- There are 5 new Disciplines of Psychic Powers in the BRB, each has 7 Powers. Each army can access different Disciplines, some cannot use them at all.
- Casting Psychic Power remains the same as in 5th.
- Psychic Powers now have 2 level, calling Warp Charge 1 and 2. Mastery Level 1 can only use Warp Charge 1 power, while Mastery Level 2 allows you to cast 2 "Warp Charge 1" power or 1 "Warp Charge 2". Higher Mastery allows for more.
- Each Psyker generate Warp Charge equal to his Mastery Level.

Characters
- Look Out, Sir! is in. Grants character 50% chance to evade the attack if he's within 6" of friendly unit (works in combat too), resolved each successful Look Out Sir on the models within 6" instead.
- Look Out Sir! is improved to 2+ for Independent Character.
- Character can issue / accept challenges.
- One model in your army will be the Warlord (one with highest LD), Warlord can roll on a table (there's 3 table, you can choose 1) to see what benefit he receive. Examples are units within 12" can use his LD, the Character count as Scoring Units, Warlord has FNP if within 3" of Objective.


Tidbits
- Fortification - a new addition to the FoC, limited to 0-1 this allows player to purchase some kind of terrain for their army. Expensive one are Fortress of Redemption (220 points) and cheap ones are Aegis Defence Lines (50 points)
- Allies - a new system that allows player to have a detachment made of another army in the list. Allies works like WFB8th Edition with best buddies, normal allies, and untrusted. The detachment is limited to 1HQ and 1 Troop(compulsory) and additional 1 Troop, 1 Elite, 1 Fast Attack, and 1 Heavy Support.

Missions
- There are 3 Deployment Types, one being the classic Pitched Battle, second one is reversed Pitched Battle (deploying along the short table edges), and third one is a triangular deployment.
- Selecting deployment zone remains the same, roll-off to see who deploys first and go first.
- Seize Initiative is still the same.
- 6 Missions with 2 Level Objectives. Primary Objectives grants more Victory Points, but harder to achieve. Secondary Objective is always 1 VP and has 3 of them. First Blood (for getting the first "kill point", Slay the Warlord (for killing the enemy Warlord - aka. general), and Linebreaker (having your units in enemy deployment zone at the end of the game)
- Deep Strike Mishap is softened now: 1 - You're Dead, 2-3 Misplaced, and 4-6 Delayed.
- Feel No Pain dropped to 5+
- There's still only 1 Level of Instant Death, no Instant Death(x)
- Fleet allows for re-rolls on Run and possibly Assault distances.
- "Hammer of Wrath" allows model to make single attack at their base strength before combat on the turn it assault. Jump Infantry and Bike have it.
- Monstrous Creature can make "Smash" attack, forfeit half of its attack to resolve attack at Sx2 against vehicle.
- Flying Monstrous Creature can make two mode of movement. One being 24" move, performing D3+1 "Vector Strike" on a single unit within the path and then shoot up to two weapons or run 2D6" in the shooting phase. However, it cannot assault or being assaulted unless it get shot and fall down from the sky first (can't remember how you fire at it, 6 only?) Should it fall from the sky, it will take S9 hit and can now be assaulted as normal.
- Sniper has rule to allow them to allocate wounds to the model of your choice if you roll a 6 when rolling to hit.
- Rage is now +2 Attack on assault.
- Many new generalization of rules...such as Armourbane (roll 2d6 for armour penetration) and Fleshbane (2+ to wound)....this also expands to weapons as well (unwieldy, concussive, etc.)
Read more: http://thetyranidhive.proboards.com/...#ixzz1yhQ7hj00"

So und jetzt gibt’s die Zusammenfassung zu den neuen Änderungen. Alle Informationen stammen aus dem aktuellen WD und sind damit bestätigt.
HQ’s:
 Werden zukünftig als Kriegsherren bezeichnet und erhalten besondere Fähigkeiten die von drei Tabellen gewürfelt werden können (Führung, Kampf oder Taktik) Z.B. Inspirierende Präsenz = Einheiten dürfen in 12 Zoll den Moralwert des Models nutzen, Fels in der Brandung = Modell kann Missionsziele halten
 Können in Nahkämpfen Herausforderungen aussprechen.
 Achtung Sir für Truppenanführer und Charaktermodelle
Psi:
 Es wird fünf Psi-Disziplinen geben (Biomantie, Prophetie, Pyromantie, Telekinese und Telepathie) mit je sechs Psikräften je Disziplin. Man wird sich vor dem Spiel (für jeden Psioniker einzeln) entscheiden können ob man die neuen Disziplinen oder die Kräfte aus dem Codexies nehmen will. Wenn man sich dafür entscheidet erhält man für jede Kraft eine Psikraft aus einer gewählten Disziplin.
 Unterstützungen durch Psikräfte werden wichtiger z.B. Disziplin Prophetie Vorwarnung erlaubt es dem Zieltrupp Angreifer beim Abwehrfeuer mit dem normalen BF zu beschießen.
 Psimatrix ermöglichen es Psiresistenzwürfe innerhalb von 6 Zoll bereits bei 4+ zu bestehen
Allgemeines:
 Reservewurf im zweiten Spielzug bei 3+
 Verluste werden am nächsten Model verursacht, daher wer vorne steht wird zuerst getroffen
 Moralwerttests werden wohl wieder eingeführt z.B. Angst bei Monströsen Kreaturen, Dämonen etc.
 Gelände wie Bunker, Barrikaden etc. können als Befestigungen mit Punkten zur Armee gekauft werden
Angriff:
 Für Angriffe werden zukünftig 2W6 gewürfelt.
 Angegriffene Einheiten dürfen gegen die Angreifer Abwehreuer legen. Abwehrfeuer wird mit einem BF von 1 abgehandelt egal welches BF die Einheit eigentlich hat.
Schusswaffen:
 Schnellfeuerwaffen feuern jetzt bei Bewegung auf ihre Maximalreichweiten
 Gauswaffen verursachen beim Durchschlagswurf von 6 den Verlust eines Rumpfpunkts
 Laserkanonen dürfen Schnellschüsse abgeben
 Flammenwerfer verursachen bei abwehrfeuer W3 Treffer anstelle einer Schablone
Granaten:
 Fragment-, Sprenggranaten etc. könne anscheinend wieder geworfen werden und verursachen Schaden oder andere Effekte (ähnlich der 3. Edition)
Monströse Kreaturen:
 Haben in Nahkämpfen einen DS von 2
 Option auf Wuchtigen Hieb (hierbei verliert man die Hälfte seiner Attacken) durch die man die Stärke verdoppelt
 Jagdflug erlauben es sich 24 Zoll zu bewegen, außerdem kann man Beuteschlag einsetzten. Einheiten über die man sich bewegt erhalten W3+1 Treffer mit Stärke des Models
Sprungtruppen:
 Dürfen Würfe für Angriffsreichweite wiederholen.
 Die Sonderregel Niederschmettern erlaubt es direkt in den Nahkampf zu springen und den Gegnern bereits beim Angriff Schaden zuzufügen.
Fahrzeuge:
 Änderung der Möglichkeit der Waffen die feuern dürfen. Z.B. Land Raider darf mit Gefechtsgeschwindigkeit noch alle Waffen abfeuern (eine Flammenkanone normal, die
andere über den Maschinengeist und dann noch Schnellschüsse mit der Sturmkanone und dem Multimelter)
 Bikes und Landspeeder mit der sonderregel ausweichen haben eine Deckungswurf 5+ und wenn sie Turboboost nutzen 4+
 Geisterbarke = 4 Rumpfpunkte
 Land Raider = 4 Rumpfpunkte
 Cybots = 4 Rumpfpunkte
 Geißel = 4 Rumpfpunkte
 Stormtalon = 2 Rumpfpunkte
Flieger:
 Werden im Flugmodus nur auf die 6 getroffen
 Können im Flugmodus Ziele am Boden angreifen
 Müssen um Truppen abzusetzen in den Schwebemodus wechseln (normale Treffermöglichkeit)
 Tiefflugangriffe verursachen Niederhaltentests
 Flieger können hochziehen und erhalten dadurch einen Deckungswurf von 5+
Sonderregeln:
 Berserker (Nachfolger für Blutdrünstig) erhalten im Angriff +2 Attacken
 Scharfschützen dürfen bei einem Trefferwurf von 6 das getroffene Modell aussuchen
 Verletzungen ignorieren (verhindert jede Verwundung, die nicht sofort ausschaltet, bei einem Wurf von 5+)
 Kampfanzüge dürfen sich in der Nahkampfphase bis zu 2W6 bewegen
Missionen:
 Missionsziele sind zukünftig zufällige Siegespunkte (1-4) Wert dies wird aber erst zu Spielbeginn auf gedeckt
 Sekundärziele wie: Töte den Kriegsherren (gegnerischen Kommandanten ausschalten), Erster Abschuss (als erstes eine gegnerische Einheit auslöschen) und Durchbruch (indem man in die gegnerische Aufstellungszone eindringt)

EDIT BY MF GREG 22.06.2012:

http://www.40k-fanworld.net/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=641298#post641298

Tjaha, dann will ich als stolzer Besitzer des neuen WD mal meine ersten Eindrücke zum Besten geben (Kein Anspruch auf Vollständigkeit und/oder Ordnung

). Leider macht auch der WD nur wage Andeutungen:

• Charaktermodelle können sich unter bestimmten Umständen ihre Ziele individuell auswählen... (keine Ahnung was das heißen soll, ich vermute aber es geht um das raussnipern in der Schussphase)
• Charaktermodelle können außerdem Duellherausforderungen aussprechen (wie in WHFB)
• neue Sonderregel "Niederschmettern" -> erlaubt es Einheiten mit Sprungmodulen direkt in den NK zu springen und dabei scheinbar extra Schaden an der Zieleinheit anzurichten.
• fliegende Monströse Kreaturen können einen Beuteschlag ausführen, wenn sie über eine gegnerische Einheit hinwegfliegen (W3+1 Treffer der S 6)
• es gibt nun Abwehrfeuer. Wird eine Einheit angegriffen, so kann sie auf den Angreifer schießen, allerdings nur mit BF1 (durch eine der neuen Psikräfte kann eine Einheit auch mit normalem BF abwehren)
• es gibt nun Flugzeugregeln (Treffer nur auf 6+, wenn so und so weit bewegt...)
• Befestigungen können nun im normalen AOP mitgekauft werden (Punktwerte zwischen 100 und 300 Punkten, grob überschlagen)
• Allianzen sind möglich, ob und welche Einschränkungen es gibt, wird nicht gesagt
• Vor der Schlacht wird ein HQ zum Kommandanten ernannt. Dieser kann auf einer von drei Tabellen (Führung, Kampf und Taktik) würfeln und somit bestimmte Boni erhalten (bspw. "alle Einheiten in 12" können seinen MW nutzen" oder "Das Charaktermodell kann Ziele halten")
• Taktische Optionen, so wie sie in den Gerüchten waren (mit Bieten, etc.) scheint es nicht zu geben.
• Optionale Regeln für geheimnissvolles Gelände (ähnlich wie in WHFB)
• sechs verschiedene Missionen und X verschiedene Aufstellungsarten (alle miteinander kombinierbar, wenn ich das recht verstehe). Neben verschiedenen Primärzielen gibt es auch sekundäre Ziele, wie beispielsweise "feindlichen Kommandanten getötet", "Durchbruch" oder "Erster Abschuss", welche ebenfalls SP geben.
• Das Modell, welches an der Spitze eines Trupps steht bekommt immer auch den ersten Treffer ab.
• Granaten können in der Schussphase geworfen werden.
• Alle Fahrzeuge haben Rumpfpunkte (Cybots 3, Seelenzermalmer, Geisterbarken und Land Raider 4)
• Sprungmodule erlauben Wiederholung des 2W6-Wurfes zur Bestimmung der Angriffsreichweite
• "Berserker" (ehemals "blutrünstig") bekommen im Angriff +2 Attacken.
• greift man mehrere Einheiten gleichzeitig an, verliert man die Bonusattacke fürs Angreifen
• Alle Chaosdämonen verursachen Angst
• große geflügelte Monster dürfen sich 24" bewegen und gelten dann scheinbar als Flieger
• Es gibt nun Psiresistenzen. Diese beträgt in 6" um eine Psimatrix immer 4+
• Alle Waffen können auch nach dem bewegen abgefeuert werden (auch schwere, allerdings nur als Schnellschuss, was auch immer das heißen soll)
• Modelle mit der Sonderregel "Scharfschützen" dürfen sich bei einem Trefferwurf von 6 aussuchen, welches Modell getroffen wird
• Gaußwaffen bewirken bei einem Panzerungsdurschlagswurf von 6 den Verlust eines Rumpfpunktes
• Kampfanzüge dürfen sich in der NK-Phase 2W6" bewegen
• Monströse Kreaturen dürfen sich im NK entscheiden "Wuchtige Hiebe" auszuteilen -> verzichten auf Hälfte der Attacken und verdoppeln Stärke
• Fahrzeuge einer Schwadron scheinen sich gegenseitig keine LOS zu blocken.
• Entgegen den Gerüchten bleibt es bei der bisherigen Zugreihenfolge

So, das wars erstmal. Kann sein dass ich ein paar Sachen übersehen habe, aber das sollte so das wichtigste aus dem WD sein

Jetzt muss ich erstmal was futtern

MfG,
Archaon

EDIT BY MF GREG 21.06.2012:

Neuer Teaser ist online:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKi6Y5EFRIA&feature=player_embedded

wd leak:

http://www.40kings.de/2012/06/erste-bilder-der-neuen-edition-white-dwarf-fotos-aufgetaucht/

psifähigkeiten. 2 für eldar... ich rofl mich weg. die Psi experten waren wohl mal... gogogogo fluff ade

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40K Rumorgasm - Pt 3. New Rules, Fortifications & Terrain

Posted by Larry Vela at Thursday, June 21, 2012

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Tick Tock, the rumors just keep on coming down like summer rain. Here's the latest:



Hot on the heels of yesterday's rumor-drop come today's tasty morsels:

via Faeit 212 (visit for even more stuff)

New Rules
Psykers can mix and match the new Psychic Disciplines, using the ones in their codex or by using the ones in the new rulebook, the example given is if space marine army had 2 librarians one could take codex powers and the other could take rulebook powers.
HQ's can challenge in single combat,

Jump packs get to re-roll charge rolls, Jet packs get to "scoot" up to 2D6" away in the assault phase,

Rage is +2 attacks on the charge

Dreadnoughts have 3 Hull points, Soulgrinder, Ghost Arks and Land Raiders have 4,

Land Speeders get Jink for a +5 cover save or 4+ if flat out,

Snipers can select targets if they roll a 6 to hit,

Flying Monstrous creatures can swoop 24" and perform a Vector Strike which is D3+1 hits at it's strength on a unit it flies over.

Monstrous creatures get the Smash ability which allows them to halve their attacks but strike at double strength.

Fortifications & Terrain
Bastion in the Bat rep had a quad gun which has the Interceptor rule which allows it to shoot at a unit as it arrives from reserve and the Skyfire rule which allows it to shoot flyers at normal BS rather than BS1.

Bastions have AV14 all round and have a heavy bolter on each facing, they're automated and target the nearest enemy unit, can have a comms relay or a heavy weapon on the battlement.

Tank traps are impassable terrain to all non skimmer vehicles, bikes can attempt to pass on a successful difficult terrain test, models behind it can get a 4+ cover save.
Aegis defence lines are a 4+cover save but models behind it get +2 to cover save if they go to ground behind it.

Mysterious forests are 5+ cover save, as soon as you enter you roll on the table to see what happens.

Ruins are difficult terrain and a 4+ cover save.

Wild undergrowth is a 5+ cover save and difficult terrain.

Imperial Statuary is all imperial models within 2" of the terrain piece are fearless.
Fuel Reserves 5+ cover save, each successful cover save roll a D6, on a 1 a barrel explodes doing a strength 3 hit on any models nearby.
Impact craters are a 5+ cover save if the unit is within it's boundaries.

dakkadakka.com hat wieder was neues aufgetan, aus dem englischen WD:

Spielbericht


FnP hat also nen 5++, und der Vector Strike ist für DP möglich (sollte also auch für Schwarmtyranten mit Flügel möglich sein).

From The Tyranid Hive:
http://thetyranidhive.proboards.com/index....567&page=16

QUOTE
Courtesy of a friend from Games Workshop who has spent time with the Warhammer 40k 6th Edition rulebook. We (manager of my LGS) sent him a list of questions and these were his answers. Alot of IDK's, but some good stuff in there too.

Did the Force Org chart change?

No, the force org has not changed. It is still 1 HQ and 2 Troops. 3 Fast Attack, 3 Elites, 3 Heavy Support. Although, allies allows you in certain situati...ons to to add an HQ from another army and 1 Troop. You also, once you have satisfied the minimums can take 1 Fast, 1 Elite and 1 Heavy for you allies also. After your list is 2,000 pts, it appears you can double the Force Org chart. So up to four HQ with allies.


Is there pre-measuring for actions? (which ones?)

Pre-measure anytime and anywhere.

What AP are: Chain Swords, Power Swords, Power Fists, Chain Fists, Thunder Hammers?

I do not know.

Cover Save for: Buildings, Ruins, Area Terrain (trees and whatnot)?

Cover saves seem less forgiving. I would expect less, I know being in woods or trees is now 5+. Also, if you have (Example) 4 guys that are not in terrain. I, being the shooting player, can target just those guys that are not in cover. I have no opportunity to kill the guys in cover although. Interesting.

What is the assault / charge distance?

2D6

Do vehicles have hull points?

Yes

How are psychic powers determined?

Leadership tests, everyone can attempt to nullify a psychic power.

What is the turn sequence?

Normal?

How do rapid fire weapons work?

Rapid Fire appears to have not changed, that I saw...I don't know.

Is 'overwatch' (like Necromunda) in the rules - how does it work?

Snap Shot is the rule. Any unit being charged can make a snap shot at BS 1. They use the full profile of the weapon. You can also use snapshot offensively, that meaning my tactical squad even if I move, I can shoot my Lascannon at BS 1. No template weapons, tanks benefit from this rule.

Is there a defensive fire mechanic (snapfire) for units being assaulted in the rules - how does it work?

See above.

Can vehicles contest objectives?

I am not sure

Where does the red fern grow?

Somewhere in the Ozarks.

Will you declare and move types (like assault and/or run) in the move phase ala fantasy?

No

how will fleet usr work, especially if run is removed

Run is not removed. Fleet means you can re-roll you run or re-roll one of the D6 to charge.

Are flyers hit on 6's with shooting weapons and if true are there ways to mitigate that.

Flyers are hit on 6's if they perform a Zoom maneuver.

Details on how allies will work? Will it be on a codex by codex basis (eg CSM codex is rumored to allow IG and Chaos Demons via allies), with very specific unit allowances, more generic FOC based like the old demonhunter and witchhunter rules or fairly open ended anything goes.

There are three categories of allies. Lots of potential, I am not sure of the chart off the top of my head. CSM do get traitor guard, I also believe Demons. Tau have SM and Eldar. Lots of other arrangements. Tyranids get no one....but lots of Monstrous creature special rules added for their pleasure. Stomp, Impact Hits etc.

Details on how challeges will work? IC only? sgts and other models also involved? What about MCs and the like.

I dont know.

The AP of some other ccw's (rending, monstrous creatures, basic attacks, boneswords, two handed ccws,)

I dont know.

How will poison work in the new rules. Still rerolls if S equal or greater then T? Will the to wound number be adjusted at all (rumor that if you normally wound on 2+ then you use that number)

I dont know

Psychic defense and abilities for armies without psychers? Rumor that all units get a 6+ save against psychic powers. Another rumor that their might be ways for Tau etc to get psychers.

I believe everyone will have access to some sort of psyker. 6+ is true for everyone.

Example of new psychic power, maybe a default one and a super powerful one (assuming its like fantasy) and who would be able to take it in current codexes.

I dont know.

Whats the effect on embarked units when transport is damaged, wrecked, penned etc. Can they more easily go about their business like 5ed, or entagled like 4ed, or something in between.

Similar, not sure. Much harder to blow up vehicles. Vehicle Damage chart has change as well as Deep Strike Mishap has changed.

Affect of being open topped (good and bad)

Not sure, I believe it is the similar

Monstrous creature rules revamped at all? Like how do they get cover saves, are they more/less surviable, do they retain 2d6 pen, Ap of their cc attacks

Not sure, see above in allies for some info.

Rumor of changes to wound and to hit charts to be more like fantasy. True?

I am not sure

How will reserves work in the standard missions? Still always an option? Updates to determining when units arrive? Outflanking updated or same?

Normally it seems

Can you assault after deepstrike?

No

Changes to how units fire out of a vehicle (like say if it moves can only one model fire, is their range reduced, do they gain relentless)

None that I noticed

Does relentless add shots to weapon if statioanry and if so is it just rapid fire weapons or is it also assault

I do not know

Pistols work different now? Do they just add attack like a ccw or can they actually fire in cc.

I do not know this.

Assault weapons work different now? Can you still shoot and assault or ill they get some sort of ability to fire or affect on the charge?

I believe this is the same.

Dreadnoughts have 3 Hull points, Soul grinder, Ghost Arks and Land raiders have 4,

Land Speeders get Jink for a +5 cover save or 4+ if flat out,

There's a pic of a Beastman Imperial Guardsman "A type of abhuman designated Homo Sapien varatius in the rulebook's appendix,

Snipers can select targets if they roll a 6 to hit,

Gauss weapons remove a hull point on a hit of a 6, tesla works with the overwatch (needing 6's to hit at BS1) nicely (any sixes to hit are 2 hits),

Some Psychic powers marked as number 6 on what I would assume is a random table (looking at a picture of the cards all fanned out, can only see the top card)

Discipline of Biomancy - Haemorrage, warp charge 1, range 12". Haemorrage is a Focused witchfire power with a range of 12". The Target must pass a toughness test or suffer a wound with no armour saves or cover saves allowed. If the target is slain randomly select another model (friend or foe) within 2" of him. That model must pass a toughness test or suffer a wound with no armour or cover saves allowed. If that model dies, continue the process until a model survives or there are no suitable targets within range.

Discipline of Divination - Scrier's Gaze, Warp charge 1. Scrier's Gaze is a Blessing that targets the Psyker. Whilst the power is in effect, you can roll 3 dice and choose the result you want when rolling for reserves, outflank or mysterious terrain.

Discipline of Pyromancy - Molten Beam, warp charge 2, range 12". Molten beam is a Beam with the following profile - S8 AP1 Assault, melta

Discipline of Telekinesis - Vortex of Doom, warp charge 2, range 12". Vortex of doom is a Witchfire power with the following profile - S10 AP1, Heavy1, Blast* *If the psychic test is failed centre the template on the psyker, it does not scatter.

Discipline of Telepathy - Hallucination, warp charge 2, range 24". Hallucination is a Malediction that targets a single enemy unit within 24". Roll immediately to determine the manner of hallucinations the target is suffering from (roll once for the whole unit)
d6 1-2 - Unit is pinned, unless it automatically passes pinning tests or is locked in close combat, in which case there is no effect.
3-4 - The unit cannot shoot, run, declare charges or strike blows in close combat whilst the power is in effect.
5-6 - Every Model in the unit immediately inflicts a single hit on it's own unit, resolved at that models own strengths, but using the strength bonuses, AP values and special rules of the most powerful close combat weapons (if they have any)

http://www.gw-fanworld.net/showthread.php?154477-W40k-6th-Edition-kommt-2012-!&p=2722068&viewfull=1#post2722068

EDIT BY MF GREG 19.06.2012:
Aus dem neuen White Dwarf (Quelle: Warseer):

- Hull Points are in, it is stated that Ghost Arks, Land Raiders, and Defilers each have 4 Hull Points apiece. Necrons have the ability to strip hull points for each roll of a 6 to penetrate/glance vehicles, making rapid-firing gauss weaponry very powerful at removing armour.

- Speaking of rapid fire, you can indeed move and fire once up to the full range of the weapon (it is explicitly stated that Fire Warriors can fire their weapons up to 30" away), no confirmation on the 3x fire for Relentless at half range though.

- Assault moves are indeed 2d6", but added together. Units equipped with jump packs can re-roll the dice to see how far they charge.

- The Rage USR gives you +2 attacks on the charge

- All flying monstrous creatures have the ability to fly 24", doing something called a "Vector Strike", which is a certain amount of automatic hits to a unit they fly over, at the base strength of the creature.

- Monstrous creatures' attacks are explicitly AP 2

- Every army must select a "Warlord" or single general to lead the army, this leader gets an ability. They can choose between three different types of abilities, "Personal", "Inspirational" or "Strategic". They then roll on one of those charts to see what ability it is. The two examples given were a Grand Master giving all friendlies within 12" his Ld of 10 (Inspirational), and a Chaos Lord being a scoring unit (Personal, the ability itself was called "Immovable Object")

- Flyers are a specific type of unit, and it is somewhat unclear as to the rules for shooting at them. Either all units require a 6 to hit them (unless they have a special rule called Skyfire), or this is still the case but only if those flyers move flat-out. Monstrous creatures with the ability to Fly also get this "6-to-hit" rule.

- You have the ability to buy different terrain (it even has its own slot on the new FOC), e.g, you can buy a Bastion with a Quad-Gun (which has the aforementioned Skyfire USR). There seem to be quite a few options for what terrain you can buy, but naturally most of them are typically represented by terrain kits GW sells.

- Now we're on the topic of the FOC, the rules for allies weren't laid out specifically, but it is heavily implied that its not the same as in WHFB. They refer to allied units as "Detachments", and there is an example of a player with a Chaos Space Marine force having some detachments of Chaos Daemons in his army. Basically, I was given the impression that it is far more common (and frequent) for a detachment from another 40k army to join a larger one, than it is for a Fantasy army to have Allies. Think more along the lines of the Storm of Magic rules for using TK, VC, or Daemons.

- Here's a biggie: Units -can- go on Overwatch, giving them the ability to fire upon an enemy unit which charges them, but at BS 1. Eldar (and any other army with access to the Clairvoyance psychic power set) can use a psychic power to give a unit the ability to fire at their usual BS.

- Monstrous Creatures have access to a special "Smash" attack, allowing them to halve their attacks, but double their strength. It mentions that this gives them the ability to destroy tanks more easily.

- It's somewhat hinted that AP will have some kind of affect against vehicles. This is because part of the Munitorum dice set includes vehicle damage dice. It specifies that some of the dice are "AP 1, AP 2, and AP 3 Damage dice", or something to that effect.

- 4 Disciplines of Psychic powers, basically what we were thinking in terms of Clairvoyance, Biomancy, etc etc. There's a chart near the back of the WD detailing which (if any) psychic disciplines a particular army gains access to. It's interesting to see that a large amount of armies don't have access to any at all.

The leaked photo of the cover is correct, that is the new cover of the normal hardback rulebook. The collectors edition looks *******' sweet though, with amazing artwork and brass doodads, etc etc. The skull measuring tape is pretty cool too, and the munitorum dice come in a lasgun charge pack case, and are also pretty nicely designed. The special edition templates follow the Fantasy example of being somewhat visually-related to the game, except instead of faux-gold framing, they're faux-steel framed, with coruscating arcs of blue psychic fire spoking out from the middle of each (or the narrow end of the flame template)

EDIT BY MF GREG 19.06.2012:
[video=youtube;gjeBrABtQzc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gjeBrABtQzc[/video]


EDIT BY MF GREG 19.06.2012:
Quelle: http://www.40kings.de/2012/06/sechst...ok-aufgetaucht

EDIT BY MF GREG 19.06.2012:

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EDIT BY MF GREG 07.01.2012:
von Warseer

Also I have heard more from my source about the percentage thing, apparently like fantasy you get so much per points level, so example (though just example not exact) you get 1+ hq, 2+ troops, 0-1 heavy, 0-1 fast, and 0-1 elite for the first 1000pnts with 1 being added to each for every slot for each additional 500 points.

As always take with salt I only pass along what I hear.

Iceborn

EDIT BY MF GREG 21.11.2011:

Neues von BoLS:

1) 6th ed boxset is set to be Eldar Vs CSMs, as they will be the among the first 6th ed codexes.

2) Eldar will be first, then Tau or CSMs

3) Force org in 6th is undergoing a fairly interesting change. Slots will be as they are, but you can sacrifice 2 FOC slots to gain an extra one somewhere else. you can drop 2 fasts and get an extra heavy. Or a heavy and a fast and get an elite. Only thing you cant get is extra HQs i think. ~He later states this appears to be a one time thing, (you can't trade in 4 slots to gain 2 new ones of your choice).

Quelle: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/11/40k-rumors-6th-edition-foc-changes.html

EDIT BY MF GREG 07.11.2011:

von BolS:

Zitat:
Now - 5th edition
1 Shot at 24 inches without moving
2 Shots at 12 inches moving or not moving

Rumored - 6th edition
2 Shots at 24 without moving
2 Shots at 12 and 1 shot at 24 with moving

EDIT BY MF GREG 24.06.2011:
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- models that have charged already locked unit have I 10 this turn
- Assume leadership: Standard bearers, etc. that assume leadership count as squad leader in all respects (two saves, directed wounds), any other model that assumes leadership only in regard of performing unit actions
- if you deploy in 24” distance from enemy you cannot shoot with 24” weapon or assault with 24” movement
- models must always consolidate out of 1” of vehicle after attacking it, if locked in combat with another unit, vehicles are ignored for pile in moves after combat, must use this pile in move to bring 1” between unit an vehicle, artillery and walkers are obviously exceptions
- swarms have Eternal Warrior (1)
- Seize the initiative: same name, but completely different rule: stratagem, 1 str. point, after the deployment of both force, but before placing infiltrators, roll a D6, on 5+, enemy must place infiltrators in contact with his own table edge, no scout moves allowed
- whole unit or squadron must make the same reaction
- Pistols: got confused by what I though were two contradicting short statements; units with pistols can attack with pistol’s S, AP1,2,3 pistols confer Rending (2) (Rending on 5+), Gets Hot! wounds count against combat resolution,
on charge: can make full attacks
in any other turn: can make single attack, does not get bonus of second ccw, etc.
- if both player agree, the charge movement and pile in move before combat can be made as one move with combined movement distance after the first model was engaged to fasten things up
- Characters: shooting wounds are directed, too
- Advanced rules: evasion value (normal rules: always use short distance), all reactions, Torrent of Fire, Directed wounds, damage chart modifiers for AP, flyer mode, ramming, Stratagems: bidding stays intact but only re-rolls can be taken, unique units, measuring*
* normal rules: can measure anytime you want, advanced: movement: measure full movement distance you want to go, i.e. 6” for a advancing, can’t measure 12” surge distance, anything else: measure distance to target
you play either all advanced rules or none at all
- Hit & Run: still random: 3D6” consolidation move
- Morale checks for casualties: only in enemy’s shooting phase
- witchblade can now cause ID after psychic test like force weapons
- there is a small box for rare movement situations: if infantry unit moves as jump infantry (or any other unit type has movement rules of another unit type), it uses the jump infantry movement rules, but for shooting and close combat it counts as original unit type, so it is still easy to hit, if an unit moves flat out and there is no column in the to hit chart, take the moving column, exotic movements count as ‘moving’ even if faster than flat out move, deep striking units count as ‘moving’ , if units that are immobile arrives from reserves but not via deep strike, they are placed in contact with table edge normally and remain there for the rest of the game, we shall assume the the bunker has decloaked or something similar, units disembarking from deep striking vehicles use the disembarking rules for charging, so no charge unless fleet rule
- Master-crafted: re-roll one to hit roll, if several models attack with master-crafted weapons of the same type, roll the dice together, then re-roll as many dice as there are master-crafted weapons
- if you shoot through interfering models, you cannot snipe
running out out steam because I don’t get the errata info and I have reached even the tiny details of the rules

but I have one big thing left:
- monstrous creatures: 2D6 versus vehicles, ignore armour, move as infantry unless stated otherwise, are ignored for Abandon as ICs, IGNORE TERRAIN WHEN CHARGING

Gerüchte vom 24.06.2211
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my source stubbornly refuses to give me all interim codex erratas he was given. he fears that this can be used to trace him. But I convinced him that probably everyone involved has at least the space marine errata.
Here we go:

Codex Space Marines
p.51
And they Shall know Fear: Sworn Brothers, pass rally morale check automatically, if caught in sweeping advance, fights on and gets No Retreat hits
p.53
Chapter Banner: counts as as banner for assuming leadership, units in 12” re-roll morale checks for heavy casualties, lost close combat, tank shock and pinning , rest unchanged
p.55
Nartheticum: Feel no Pain (1)
Company Banner: counts as as banner for assuming leadership, units in 12” re-roll morale checks for heavy casualties, lost close combat, tank shock and pinning , rest unchanged
p. 56
Librarians have power level 1, Epistolaries 2
p. 57
Smite: shooting power
The Avengers: shooting power
Quickening: modifying power, must target himself, used in preparation phase
Null Zone: shock wave
Might of Titans: modifying power, used at start of assault phase
Gate of infinity: modifying power, used in movement phase
Vortex of Doom: Rift power
p.58
Honour of the Chapter: Fearless (2) and Stubborn
p. 62
Heroic Intervention: can surge on turn of arrival, but not shoot
p. 65
Move Through Cover: Move Through Cover (2)
p. 66
Move Through Cover: Move Through Cover (1)
Sniper Rifle: Sniper (1)
p. 69
Drop Pod Assault: Remaining drop pods are divided between rear guard, flank guard, cannot harry. Disembarking unit cannot assault even if unit has fleet.
p. 73
Thunderfire Gun: 1 crew marker, make additional S8, power weapon attack at I 1
Tremor: unit already in cover cannot force a surge
p. 75:
Cerberus Launcher: additionally units disembarking from moving vehicle have Fleet
p. 81
Power of the machine spirit: can fire one more weapon, advanced rules: can still cause directed wounds if diverting fire
Assault vehicle: units disembarking from moving vehicle have Fleet
p. 84
God of War: Fearless (2) for every unit with combat tactics
p. 85
Surprise Attack: no effect without advanced rules in play
Rites of Battle: re-roll any failed morale check for pinning, heavy casualties, tank shock or lost close combat
Talassarian Tempest Blade: Instant Death (1)
Mantle of Suzerain: Fell no Pain (1)
p. 86
Hood of Hellfire: power level 3
p. 87
Feel no Pain: Feel no Pain (1)
p. 88
Eye of Vengeance: controlling player can choose, to which armour group Telion’s wounds go
Stalker Pattern Boltgun: Rending (1)
p. 92
Chapter Tactics: Fleet (1), when disembarked from moving vehicle unit can advance, but not charge (except from Land raider and Land Speeder Storm)
The Raven’s Talons: Rending(1)
p. 94
Moondrakkan: can charged even if moves flat out
Moonfang: ID (1)
p. 95
Fearless: Fearless (2) and Stubborn
p.97
Assault Cannon: Rending (1)
p. 98
Master-crafted Weapons: has master-crafted rule
p. 100
Camo Cloaks: Stealth (1)
p.103
Dozer Blades: can re-roll dangerous terrain tests
p.129-143
Chapter Champion, Company Champion and Sergeants are squad leaders, Servitor units and attack bike squadrons can nominate one model as squad leader

I have another Q&A session this afternoon. I can probably relay questions. At least I can try. So shoot away.

Gerüchte vom 23.06.2011:
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persuaded my source to give me more (some would say: everything there is

), the following is copy and pasted from hour long icq sessions, so there might be some missing bits, but most of the time, nothing has changed. we all know what unit coherency is, these are not actual rule texts but answers for my questions about the rules
I tried to arrange all fragments in proper order and corrected grammar, but most kudos go to my friend for being helpful while being annoyed of GW

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

As I am done with GW forever. I love the miniatures, I like the new rules (been pretty enthusiastic about it), but I hate the company, that makes them. If you knew what I know you would feel the same. GW doesn’t care for their customers one bit. The whole corporal culture is cynical as hell. The managers despise the hobby and all immatures who play it. There is a huge rift in the management and most of the executives that actually play the game have left or are leaving the company right now.

Layout

Pretty crisp and clean

on odd pages there is the normal rule text with examples, on even pages there are the usual diagrams and charts, and small boxes with definitions
Lots of rules that were formerly explained within the text, are now only summarized in the text, the full rules are given in these boxes, you can read the rules text very fast without much detail, there are some boxes that have a name of a rule, but are empty otherwise. I guess that there should be page references to later pages, for example in the terrain rules, there is Torrent of Fire mentioned, the rule is explained much later (in a box), there is an empty box in the terrain section that reads Torrent of Fire however
So you have both: clear rules veterans and easy reading for first-timers
But it seems that there is not much space left for pictures, though

Fundamentals:

characteristic tests as normal,
if unit must make test, it is made by squad leader
vehicles fail every test automatically if they don’t have the value
test on ld is made with single D6 on halved value, vehicles pass these tests automatically
Majority characteristic: characteristic-value with most wounds in unit, if draw, use the higher
Keep track on:
wounds
movement distance
morale condition
everything else can be forgotten between actions

Saves:

4 kind of changes: armour save, cover save, invulnerable save, Feel no Pain
no model can ever make more than two saves or one re-rollable save
normal models can only make one roll or one re-rollable roll
Situation where two rolls are eligible:
- one of the saves is FnP
- model is character
- model is bracing
Feel no Pain (1-3): save on 5+,4+,3+, only negated by AP 1, 2 and wounds that don’t allow armour saves, the only save that every model and not only ICs may take in addition to another save

Actions

The rules make really clear what an unit can do and what not. There is an own chapter for the basic concepts. Every special rule has only to state: can do x, y, z and it is perfectly clear that the unit can still a, b and c
Actions:
- movement: movement in movement phase, sometimes only special types of movement are allowed: advance, surge, flat out, fleet; charge and disembark have to be rules out explicitly
- consolidate moves: every other move, has to be mentioned explicitly
- psychic powers
- shooting
- Reactions
- residual actions: any other action, for example popping smoke
unit is immobile: abbreviation for cannot move, react, make consolidation moves

Reactions

models can react every time the conditions are met
- Going to Ground:
who: non-vehicles, non-monstrous creatures
when: unit is being shot at, before rolls are made
instant effect: -
lasting effect: Suppressed, if not already Suppressed
- Brace:
who: tanks, walkers, monstrous creatures
when: being shot at, before rolls are made
instant effect: one weapon destroyed ignored, two saves for MC like IC
lasting effect: Suppressed, if not already Suppressed
- Flying High:
who: jet pack infantry, jump infantry, jetbikes
when: being shot at
instant effect: count as being flyer for shooting, opposing player can make 6” consolidation move with the unit
lasting effect: Suppressed, if not already Suppressed
- Evade:
who: skimmer, fast non-tanks, jetbikes, bikes, jet pack infantry, jump infantry
when: unit is being rammed or tank shocked and nearly fails morale check
instant effect: on 3+ can make 6” consolidation move, ignores ram if out of the way
lasting effect: -
- Return Fire:
who: (disembarked) units with Overwatch
when: unit is shot at the first time in the phase
instant effect: unit can fire rapid fire and assault weapons with a single shot at attacking unit, range 12”, resolved simultaneously, opposing unit is fearless (2) and stubborn for this purpose
lasting effect: -
- Charge by chance:
who: non-vehicles, walkers
when: Trapped, tank shock
instant effect: charge by chance
lasting effect: -

Terrain:

there are two different things: to be in cover, to be in terrain
every piece of terrain has a footprint, if an unit is this area or touches it, it is in terrain, being in terrain is important for movement and assaults
to decide if a model is in cover, you use true line of sight, cover is usually used for shooting, though some weapons use terrain
terrain is open, impassable, or has any number of the following attributes:
- difficult terrain: unit can only advance through it, if a single model moves through
- dangerous terrain:
units that move through dangerous terrain must make a test
non-vehicles make dangerous terrain test for every model that has actually moved through it at the end of the phase
vehicles must designate a point where they enter the terrain before the movement, than make the test, if vehicle is stunned, immobilized or destroyed, move it to designated point in a straight line
for every failed test, the unit gets a hit
non-vehicles: failed on 1: auto wound on unit, allocated together as Torrent of Fire
vehicles: roll depends on movement distance: advanced = failed on 1, surged = failed on 1-3, flat out = failed automatically, vehicle gets S8 hit against side armour
walker only ever fail on 1
non-vehicle units make only a single dangerous terrain test a turn, vehicles every time they enter a different dangerous terrain
- leveled: must spend movement for vertical advancement, non-walker vehicles and bikes can’t move vertical in leveled terrain
difficult and dangerous terrains are always ignored if the movement isn’t taking place in the own movement phase

Preparation and consolidation phase

These phases are collecting basin for all kinds of action that takes place before the movement or at the end of the turn. The player which turn it is may choose the order of these actions freely.
preparation phase: psychic powers, placing reserves, rallying, joining/ leaving, claiming mission markers
consolidation phase: rallying, consolidation moves, jet pack moves, joining/ leaving, embarking, killing multi-wounded units
consolidation move: moves outside the movement phase (jet pack movement, embarking, joining/leaving, falling back, moves after combat, tank shock evasion …) and moves that are described as consolidation moves are consolidation moves
cannot end in contact with enemy, ignores terrain even if performed in own movement phase, all units are relentless for this movement, can move even if fired heavy weapon, can fire heavy weapon afterwards, doesn’t affect unit speed for being shot at if not stated otherwise
Abandon: If there is more than one model with less than its initial wounds in an unit in the consolidation phase, the owning player must remove all but one as casualty ( ID(3) ). Independent characters are ignored.

movement phase:

Units can stay stationary or move in different speeds. They can advance and use their normal movement or they can surge and double their movement distance. Some units can go flat out or fleet and triple their movement.
Advance: normal movement: every action allowed
Surge: double movement: close combat, consolidate moves, psychic powers, reactions, residual action allowed
Flat out: movement: triple movement: only reactions allowed, use own columns on to hit chart
Fleet movement: triple movement, can charge, count as moving against shooting, cannot forced surge
If the unit goes through difficult terrain it can only advance. No unit can ever go flat out or fleet through terrain.
Forced surge: Units can surge through terrain if they are allowed to go flat out outside terrain this turn. Tanks cannot force surge (except during a ram).
If the unit fails an I-test, terrain is treated as dangerous terrain.
During a charge, every unit can try to surge through. If the I-test is failed, the unit still can only advance. units, that have passed their I-test for the fleet movement, automatically pass this I-test.
Can’t surge if there is another reason for the restriction to advance movement than terrain.
Unit types:
infantry: 6”
beasts/cavalry: 8”, fleet (1)
jump infantry: 8”, ignore terrain*
jet pack infantry: 6”, ignore terrain*, 6” move in consolidation phase
jetbikes: 10”, ignore terrain*, flat out
(eldar jetbike: jetbike with Fleet (2) )
bikes: 8”, flat out, cannot force surge
vehicles: 6”
fast vehicles: 6”, flat out
fast skimmer: 8”, flat out
walker: 6”, treat terrain like infantry
* as long as they don’t start or end in terrain
Fleet (1): infantry, beasts, monstrous creature, jump infantry, jet pack infantry: I-test, if successful, can perform fleet movement, can always advance during disembarkation;
bikes and jetbikes: I-test successful: can make 6” move in consolidation phase
Fleet (2)/Bounding Leap: as Fleet (1), no I-Test required
Random movement: roll a D6: 1-2 unit moves as infantry, 3-4 unit moves as jump infantry but cannot ignore terrain, 5-6 unit moves as beast

Charging:

no model may enter 1” of enemy models unless it charges,
the only difference between a charge and a normal movement is: models may enter 1” of enemy models.
all other movement restrictions apply, unit must stay in coherency, are subject to terrain
charging units can make a forced surge
an unit can charge more than one unit, but must stay in coherency, cannot move closer than 1” to enemy units that are not charged
The units in contact are now locked. If any model moved through terrain, the defending unit can claim to be in terrain in the assault phase, in the assault phase, both unit pile in before trading blows

Charge by chance:

sometimes units are forced to perform a charge in another phase than the movement phase, the charge by chance is a pile in move, as if the charging and defending unit were locked but have lost contact, the defending unit can make a pile in move afterwards (even if it is his phase, the defending player piles in last).
the combat is fought in the next assault phase and no side counts as attacker or being in terrain, no side can use grenades, no further pile in moves occur before the fighting
Movement distance is important for shooting, only the attempted movement in the movement phase counts (other movements do not count, consolidate moves don’t count, even a vehicle that has movement 1” can claim having moved flat out),
can be ‘overridden’ by three events outside movement phase:
fighting in close combat : stationary
become immobile: stationary
falling back: moving

Wounding:

To wound chart:
wound everything at least on 6+
Wound Allocation (cc and shooting):
hit as normal, wound against majority
mark dice that represent special weapons and attacks or roll separately
1. decide whether to use Torrent of Fire or not
2. target’s player allocate wounds to models, beginning with one chosen armour group, if every model in this group has a wound, start with another armour group and so on, if every model in the unit has a wound, start over
—> multiple wounds: count for allocation as as many models as wounds remain
3. pick an unresolved armour group, determine which wounds are directed
4. directed wounds: roll saves for directed wounds, shooting player removes casualties
5. roll all remaining saves of this armour group, owning player removes casualties
6. goto 3

Directed wounds:

there are directed wounds in close combat and long-range combat, casualties from directed wounds are removed by owning player of the attacking unit
Wounds cannot be directed if targeted unit has Shielded USR, Torrent of Fire is used, vehicle diverts its fire or non-vehicle, non-MC unit is in fire corridor
Number of directed wounds: After allocating wounds to an armour group, it is determined if the how many and which wounds are directed as following:
- every attack from an IC in close combat is a directed wound,
- of the remaining wounds, every second wound, beginning with the first, from a Sniper weapon is directed.
- Of the remaining wounds on-sniper wounds, every fifth wound is directed, owning player of the shooting unit decides which wounds are directed
Torrent of Fire/Blows: if torrent of fire is used, the targeted unit is a single armour group, the owning player can choose one model, the whole unit has the same combination of armour saves
During a Torrent of Fire, no wound is directed
Armour group: number of model that share the same combination of saves, for example: 3+ armour save, Feel no Pain (1), no invulnerable save, 6+ cover save that is re-rollable on 1
Shooting:
for determining if a particular model in the unit can shoot, check range and line of sight from this model
cover saves:
fire corridor is measured from squad leader, to the two outermost models in the target unit, if 50% or more models are invisible or partial invisible due to cover or vehicles or monstrous creatures, the unit is in cover,
non-vehicles/MC are invisible for determining cover saves, but if such an unit is in fire corridor, wounds cannot be directed
if unit is covered mostly by fortifications or models are completely invisible: 4+ save
if unit is covered mostly by vegetation: 6+ save
if unit is covered mostly by vehicles or anything else: 5+ save
To Hit chart:
it is the same chart as the wound chart, but with seven columns from 0 till 6
(evasion value in brackets, abbreviates for small chart)
rows:
buildings (0)
stationary vehicles, MC, bikes (1)
stationary infantry, jet pack infantry, jump infantry, beasts // moving vehicles, monstrous creatures (2)
short distance // moving infantry, jet pack infantry (3)
moving bikes, jump infantry, beasts // swarms // flat out vehicles (4)
flat out bikes (5)
flyers, beacons (some narrative missions use beacons) (6)
columns:
BS 1-10
every column is: …. 6+ 6+ 6+ 5+ 4+ 3+ 2+ 2+ 2+ …. but is shifted up or down
I give you the BS value for every column that hits on 3+: 1 // 2 // 3 // 4 // 5 // 6 // 7
if distance from squad leader to target is less than 12”, unit can always change column to short distance column
if a model moves like a different unit type, the initial unit type is still used for the chart
Assault weapon: bonus attack for second close combat weapon if unit has charged
Pistols: model can use it as additional close combat weapon or use its Strength in close combat but gains no bonus for another ccw, if pistol is AP 1,2 or 3, attacks are Rending (2)
Blast (Small) and Blast (Large):
scatter as before
don’t use line of sight for determining cover saves, if majority of unit is in terrain, models get cover saves
marker has infinite height, only in leveled terrain it is two-dimensional
multiple Barrage is used every time when there comes more than one blast marker of the same type from a single shooting unit
Template: if there is a range given in a template weapon’s profile you can place the small end anywhere in this distance
Sniper (1): always wounds on 3+, Pinning, every second wound from a Sniper weapon beginning with the first is a directed wound
Sniper (2): always wounds on 3+, Rending (1), Pinning, every second wound from a Sniper weapon beginning with the first is a directed wound
Pinning: must make a pinning morale check
Tracer: treat every target as stationary
Anti Air: treat targeted flyer as flat out vehicle
Rending (1-3): 6,5+,4+ on to wound roll wound automatically and are AP2 or count as power weapon, D3 extra armour penetration
Poison/Dissolving (X+): as before, for shooting and close combat
Lance (1-3): treat AV as 13,12,11, no modifiers on damage chart ever
Instant Death(1): caused by double strength and other effects, models without Eternal Warrior (1-3) loose all wounds
Instant Death(2): models without Eternal Warrior (2-3) loose all wounds
Instant Death(3): also called removed from play, models without Eternal Warrior (3) loose all wounds
Eternal Warrior(1-3): Immune to Instant Death of same or lower level
Assault Phase:
Engaged model: a model that is in base to base contact with enemy model is called engaged, a model that is in contact with friendly engaged model is also called engaged, so if you have a long queue of models that are all in base to base contact and the first is in contact with enemy, alls are engaged
Pile In Move: consolidation move, 6”, priorities:
- must move as man models as possible in base contact with locked enemy unit
- as many models as possible must end the move engaged with model of unit it is locked in close combat with,
- rest of the model must move as near as possible to engaged models
if it is not possible to bring a single model into contact, the distance is increased with 3” until one model is engaged
At the end of the pile in move, every struggling, still unengaged IC is placed in contact with engaged model of enemy’s choosing.
Pile in after charge:
charging units make Pile In move, than the defending unit makes a Pile in Move

Attacking

Every engaged model can attack. If it is engaged with more than one unit, it can decide freely.
WS majority is used
IC are unit of their own in close combat
Initiative order:
Always strike first/last: unit strikes before I1 or after I10, is not affected by I modifiers, if unit always strikes first and last, it strikes in normal I order
charging unit in terrain: strikes at I1
Power fist: strikes always last
Feint: models can attack in a lower initiative phase if they want
Grenades: unchanged
Resolving combat
unchanged, but no more -1 for under half strength
No retreat:
Fearless units (or units that stay in combat even if they fail their morale check) make normal morale checks after loosing a combat, if failed, can decide nonetheless to stay in close combat, but every model in base to base contact may make a single attack against unit, if a model is in base to base contact with several Fearless units that failed their test, it can make one attack against each unit
Sweeping Advance: normal, unmodified I of squad leader is used
Pile in after combat: all locked units make Pile In moves, order is chosen by the player who’s turn it is, units that are no longer locked and not falling back, make a 3” consolidation move, the unit counts as being stationary

Special rules

distinction between special rules and universal special rules
Some USR and other special or weapon rules have more than one level. If no level is given, the rule is treated as level 1. Only exception: Lance and Fearless are level 2 by default
USR are always conferred to or from joined IC, other special rules not
deployment rules and rules in codices are temporarily lost if not every model in the unit has it, if it is not explicitly stated otherwise
all USR:
Preferred Enemy: as before
Tank Hunter: as before, but it only works against tanks
Counter Attack: as before, negates Furious Charge
Veiled(1): if unit targets veiled unit, must roll 3D6 x 3” over distance or forfeit shooting
Veiled (2-3): 2D6” x 2
Acute Senses/Night Vision(1-3): reroll Veiled roll of equal or lower level
Furious Charge: as before
Hit & Run: as before
Overwatch: can react with returning fire
Move through cover (1): I-Test to ignore terrain
Move through cover (2): ignores terrain
Sworn Brothers/Mindless Slaves: if squad leader is killed, every other model in unit can assume leadership
Rage: must always at least advance and use full distance towards enemy (for example raged infantry must at least move 6”, if decide to surge, must move 12”), if shaken or embarked, ignores the rule
Shielded: as long as one model with this rule remains in target unit, wounds cannot be directed wounds
Slow and purposeful: Relentless; can only surge, if S-test is passed, if unit moves through terrain, it cannot force a surge, units with SaP and Fleet and/or Flat out have Relentless and Random movement instead, negates Preferred Enemy
Shock Troop: always rolls a single D6” under 18” in a deep strike, a hit is a hit
Skilled Rider/Driver/Ranger (1): reroll dangerous terrain tests
Skilled Rider/Driver/Ranger (2): ignore dangerous terrain tests
Stealth (1): +1 on cover save, must take Vanish reaction if unit takes a shooting reaction
Stealth (2-3): +1,+2 on cover save; 6+,5+ in the open, must take Vanish reaction if unit takes a shooting reaction
no USR:
Relentless: always count as stationary for firing weapons
Swarms: use the moving beasts (4) column in the chart regardless of movement or unit type, Blast and Template Weapons cause Instant Death (2) against swarms
Vehicles:
damage chart:
only negative modifiers: -2 glancing, -1 any hit except AP1 and AP – against tanks, -2 AP – against tanks (AP 1 flat +1 gone), -3 hit by blast marker but hole not over vehicle and vehicle is not open-topped (no more halved S for blast markers)
chart unchanged, but if vehicle blows up (6+ on chart), embarked troops and models in D6” get S3 AP – hit, if vehicle blows up embarked troops are Suppressed, if the vehicle is only wrecked they are fine
if a flat out moving vehicle is immobilised (4) or wrecked (5) it blows up (6+) instead and embarked units are Pinned instead of Suppressed.
close combat basically the same:
no close combat resolution against non-walkers, but units can decide to break off and make a 3” consolidation move
hit stationary vehicle automatically, advancing vehicle on 4+, at any other speed and skimmers on 6+
Shooting: stationary: fire all weapons, advance: fire one, surge: no weapon
fast as before: advance and fire all, surge and fire one
every weapon can target different unit, when doing so, cannot cause directed wounds, even with Sniper weapons

Transport:

Fire point: can fire if vehicle has advanced or surged, but only 12” regardless of weapon type, embarked troops are relentless
Embarking: 4” move in consolidation phase in contact towards access point, if squad leader reaches access point, unit is embarked. If not, no move is performed
Disembarking: 4” in movement phase from any access point or base in case of flyers, consolidation move, counts as having moved the same distance category as vehicle, i.e. stationary, advance, surge; no charge
cannot disembark if going flat out or if unit cannot move as fast as vehicle, i.e. cannot disembark at surge speed into cover, as you can only advance in cover
if vehicle was stationary, unit can move normally from access point instead of disembarkation move, can charge
fleeting units can advance from access point instead of making disembarkation move if vehicle advanced or surged

Trapped: if an enemy model is in base to base contact with access point of closed vehicle, access point cannot be used. If every access point is blocked, the unit cannot disembark. If the unit is forced to disembark because the vehicle is destroyed, the unit is placed on the wreck or in the crater. If the unit is forced to disembark for another reason it is destroyed. The units that were in base to base contact with the access points must make a charge by chance on the embarked unit immediately if it can react
Flyers in skimmer or flyer mode and open-topped vehicles are not subject to this rule. If embarked units have to disembark place them as near as possible to the vehicle (wreck) or base

Multiple embarked units: must use different access points, if Trapped, choose access points, respective unit must charge

Skimmer: no more cover save for flat out movement

Squadron: must target the same unit,
if consists of at least two vehicles, one is squadron commander

commander: as long as commanding vehicles exists, every immobile result in squadron on vehicle with weapons left is weapon destroyed instead
rest unchanged, old allocation rules

Lumbering: can only surge if roll of 4+ on D6, if moved not faster than advance: can fire every turret mounted weapons in addition to normally allowed weapons

open topped:
has no further effect than that units can disembark and fire everywhere, no charge advantage, no damage modifier

Tanks
cannot force a surge, even if they are flat out, but can ram
AP 1 and AP – only useful against tanks

Non-tanks:
only non-tanks can force surge through terrain outside of ram
fails I-test automatically, so gets a S8 on 4+

Ramming:
now every tank shock is a ram, a ram is a straight movement with max speed (flat out or surge), if tank cannot go faster than advance, cannot ram
tank can force surge through terrain, but still can’t go flat out through it
only one turn before the movement is possible
three things can happen: tank shock through unit, passing interfering terrain, ramming attack against vehicle or building or impassable terrain
no disembarking or shooting from embarked unit or vehicle is possible after ramming

terrain:
S8 against side on 4+ as normal
Skimmer can choose to fly over terrain or go through. If go over, no tank shock or ram on units in terrain.

Tank shock:
an unit under the vehicle’s path must make a morale check
if it fails, the unit evades headless and is falling back
If check is nearly failed, unit is rolled over
If check passed but not nearly failed, can decide if nothing happens nothing happens as tanks passes by or unit is rolled over
Rolled over: unit can attempt to stop vehicle (like death or glory)
shaken units can’t try to stop
if the tanks presses on, the unit gets D3 S5 hits with Rending (2)
Ram against vehicle/building:
both vehicles deal an automatic hit to the opposing vehicle
the hit is resolved against the side in contact
to calculate the S, take the AV in contact (if it is a tank, always take the front AV) and subtract a modifier
-6 if ramming vehicle has surged
-4 if ramming vehicle moved flat out
impassable terrain and buildings have AV 14 for this purpose and can’t be damaged

Ram against walker
walker can try to stop tank as if rolled over, if vehicle isn’t stopped, impact is resolved as ram, walker cannot charge by chance
if tank would end movement on unit:
may make a 6” special move in any direction but they must try to make place for the tank, if they would be still under the vehicle they may make another 3” move and another and another, until they are 1” away from the tank and in coherency, moves are treated like consolidation moves, but can performed in every situation even if unit is immobile or can’t perform any other action
the evading unit can perform a charge by chance on the vehicle, if it can react, afterwards
comes to halt, if it: touches vehicle, building, impassable terrain, 1” before an unit in close combat or is stunned, destroyed or immobilized, movement distance is reached

Artillery: vehicle, squadron, immobile, AV 10 /10 /10, BS as crew,
no commander
can place one crew counter per artillery, some can have additional crew members
can remove counter to ignore a single crew shaken or stunned result
can fight in cc like a walker, with WS, S, I as the crew, the number of attacks is the number of crew counters plus the number of artillery devices
enemy attacks are resolved solely against the artillery

Flyers:
- can decide every round in the preparation phase: count as fast skimmer or flyer, can decide upon arrival from reserves

flyer mode:
- If flyer is in reserve, it is placed in harry reserve every time, even if it can’t outflank
- Flyers from reserve are place in the the preparation phase on any table edge
- unlike other vehicles, flyers cannot turn as they like
- ignore all terrain, even impassable
- up to 18” movement, no surge, no flat out, one turn anywhere during the movement up to 90 degrees
- must move 12” in straight line in preparation phase, can turn up to 45 degree at the end of the movement,
- must move 12” in straight line in consolidation phase, can turn up to 45 degree at the end of the movement, if reaches table edge or can’t be placed at the end of the turn, flyer is put back in harry reserve, cannot change into skimmer mode
- Flyers can always fire every weapon at a single target, all weapons have AA rule
- no (dis-)embarking, except special drops if unit has Aerial Drop special rule
- if immobilized (4) or wrecked (5), place Blast (Large) marker in random direction in 3D6”, causes S5 (against side armour), place crater
- Embarked troops are destroyed if flyer in flyer mode is wrecked or destroyed. If immobilized, unit is placed in crater, get S5 hit each, Suppressed
- flyers have their own column in the to hit chart, Blast weapons don’t use their marker, use BS to hit, if marker targets another unit and touches flyer, hit is ignored
- barrage and ordnance weapons can fire direct, but must re-roll hits, even if twin-linked, weapons that hit automatically can’t hit flyers, that includes shooting, rift and shock wave psychic powers that hit automatically
- close combat: in contact with base, attacks hit on 6, any other unit than jump infantry, jetpack infantry and jetbikes must re-roll hits
- cannot be rammed, base is treated like unit in close combat

Aerial Drop: flyer with this special rule can disembak units even if in flyer mode, in any phase embarked jump infantry and jet pack infantry can be placed via deep strike on a point, the flyer has moved over in this phase

IC: can roll two saves at the same time,
All wounds from an IC in close combat are directed. count as separate unit in assault phase for dealing damage
joining: 3” move in preparation or consolidation phase, assumes automatically squad leadership
combat: if IC is part of an unit that is in close combat, but isn’t in base to base contact, it is moved into it by the shortest distance

Squad Leader:
You must nominate one model of every unit to be the squad leader, if the unit entry doesn’t make clear which model it is in the first place.

Banner/Icon/Trophy: if squad leader is killed, standard- or icon bearer automatically becomes new squad leader.
If one or more independent characters have joined the unit, one of them automatically becomes new squad leader. If the IC is killed, the normal leader takes over.
Squad leaders can take two saves, all wounds from squad leader in close combat are directed
only applies for initial squad leader.
If the unit must take a characteristic test, use the profile of the Squad leader.
used for all kinds of things
Every time when something is measured from the squad leader, or he has to make a test for the unit, but the unit has no leader anymore, the opposing player can choose one model for this purpose

psychic powers:

Psychic test: morale check to use power, if morale check is failed, no more powers this turn from this psyker

perils: unchanged

power levels: number of psychic powers per player’s turn

power types:

- shooting power: count as firing a weapon, line of sight, BS roll or scatter if blast, fire point needed

- rift power: count as firing a weapon, true line of sight, no BS roll or scatter, only disembarked, targets suffer described effect, wounds from rift powers cause ID (2)

- modifying power: preparation phase, no line of sight or BS roll, no fire point needed, distance from hull, can only target own models inside transport; if target splits during the turn, the psyker’s player can decide on which part the power remains

- aura: preparation phase, psyker and joined unit are effected, if psyker leaves unit, power stays only with psyker, no BS roll, no fire point needed, transport unaffected, sustained power

- shock wave: count as firing a weapon, no line of sight, no BS roll needed, radius from base edge, must be disembarked, units in transports are unaffected

block: psyker in normal condition in 24” of other psyker can attempt to block psychic power, on 5+ blocked, on 1 perils of warp attack (unchanged), if equipped with similar wargear, psyker can decide which to use, only one block attempt per power

passive powers: no need for psychic test, not subject to block, don’t work if unit ‘can’t perform any action’

resonating powers: can stack

sustained powers: if psyker is shaken or engaged in close combat, power is blocked

rampant power: if psyker uses a rampant power, cannot use another power this turn, even with power level 2 or more

force weapon: as before, ID(2)

witchblades: as before, besides: force weapon with ID(1)

Unit conditions:

Morale checks: roll with 2D6 against squad leaders Ld as normal, but result of a failed or passed roll varies from situation to situation i.e. psychic test, pinning test, casualties, and are given for every situation. there is no more: “make a normal morale check”

In some situations a morale check can not only be failed or passed, but also be nearly failed. Nearly failed is if rolled higher than halved LD (rounding up) but below or equal to Ld, modifiers are applied before halving, but there are no more modifiers outside close combat
five usual situations: lost close combat, heavy casualties, pinning, psychic test, rallying
checks due to other fleeing unit is gone

Heavy casualties: made in consolidation phase, 25% casualties or more in a shooting phase: if failed: fall back

Pinning:
if morale check fails, unit is Pinned, if nearly fails, unit is Suppressed

Lost close combat:
unchanged, difference in combat resolution as modifier

- Suppressed:
non-vehicle and non-MCs units cannot move flat out, fleet, force a surge, shoot, use psychic powers, react, if they fail a T-test, they cannot surge and charge
vehicles and MC: can still react and fire a single weapon, cannot ram, (vehicles fail their T-test automatically), vehicles can only voluntarily become suppressed, embarked units in a suppressed vehicle cannot shoot from within
infantry, beasts, unit with swarm get Stealth (1) or level of stealth one up up to 3
if charged: looses suppressed status immediately
if forced to make another morale check: morale check, if nearly failed or failed, unit is Pinned instead of Suppressed

- Pinned: cannot move, shoot, make consolidate moves, use psychic powers, react
infantry, beasts, unit with swarm get Stealth (1) or level of stealth one up up to 3
if charged: looses Pinned status immediately but cannot use defensive grenades and Counter Charge USR and gains no bonus from terrain
if forced to make another morale check: morale check, if nearly failed or failed, unit is Falling Back instead of being pinned

- Falling Back:
in moment of breaking unit immediately makes consolidation move towards own table edge with surge distance, count as having surged for purposes of shooting
can act in subsequent turn as normal, but must attempt to move and simultaneously end their movement not closer to any enemy unit. If they cannot move in the movement phase because of this they are removed from play. Therefore they cannot stay stationary voluntarily or charge an enemy.
They can perform consolidation moves, but cannot end nearer to any enemy unit. Unit cannot react.
if charged: if charging model reaches the unit, unit is destroyed and charge is unsuccessful
if forced to make another morale check: unit is destroyed, does not apply for rallying
if reaches voluntarily or during their initial move the table edge: are removed from play but don’t count as destroyed
- Shaken: abbreviation for Suppressed, Pinned, Falling Back
- Immobile: abbreviation for cannot move, cannot react, cannot make consolidation moves

Rallying: suppressed and pinned units automatically recover in the consolidation phase of their next player’s turn
A falling back unit with squad leader can make a morale check in the preparation phase if there is no enemy unit in 6”. If successful the unit can act normally. If failed, the unit is not destroyed. A falling back unit can embark into a vehicle an rallies immediately. The 3” movement can be towards enemies as long as it end inside the vehicle.

Fearless (1): if any morale check for rallying, casualties, tank shock or in close combat fails, the unit can decide to pass it anyway, Fearless units treat Pinned as Suppressed, treat Falling back as normal condition
Fearless (2): as Fearless (1) but can decide to pass Pinning tests, too

Stubborn: always use the unmodified Ld for morale tests in close combat, Stubborn and Fearless (1-2) units must always choose to pass a morale check

Misc:
swarm = model with swarm rule
there is no special rule for allocating wounds against units with multiple wounds

Mission rules:
3 old types of placement, only one type of mission

Sequence:
place terrain -> decide type of placement -> place mission markers -> decide first turn -> choose stratagems -> put units in reserve ->deploy remaining units -> deploy infiltrating units -> make scout moves

First turn:
roll-off, looser bids a number of strategy points, opponent can raise or bail out, both player can raise the stake until someone bails out. Winner can decide to go first or last
Player that goes first can decide table edge and has to deploy first
The looser can spent the strategy points on stratagems

Placing mission markers: 1 marker is placed as near as possible to the middle of the table, 4 markers are placed in turn, starting with the player that goes first. marker has to be more than 12” away from table edges and other markers
marker use a 60mm base and are impassable terrain, the center marker is flat and doesn’t block line of sight, the players can use every shape they want for the markers they place, as long as it doesn’t overlap the base significantly

Night Fighting: all units Veiled (1)

Scout: 12” move before the game after infiltrators are placed, outflank

Infiltrator: can be placed anywhere outside 18” of enemy models, count as veiled (2) as long as they make no voluntary action

Outflank: nominate side, on 3+ comes from there, on 1-2 from other side

Deep Strike: mishab table as before, place squad leader,
if in 6” of enemy: 3D6” scatter, use arrow on hit symbol, if in 12”: 2D6” hit is hit, in 18”: 1D6”, outside 18”: no scatter
may only advance on turn of arrival, even with fleet or flat out, count always as (advance) moving, charge allowed

Reserves: unit(s), their transport and joined IC count as one unit for all reserve related purposes, but the unit has to start inside the transport and IC has to be in the unit, units can use special deployment options of the vehicle but not vice versa,
1. nominate any number of outflanking units to harry, place them near the table, facing the enemy’s table edge
2. flank guard: nominate half (rounding down) of the remaining units to arrive in turn 2, place them near the table, facing the small table edge
3. rear guard: the rest arrives in turn 3, place them near the table, facing the own table edge
In the preparation phase
when you put an unit in reserve you have to decide upon a deployment method
In preparation phase:
flank guard: from turn 2 on: arrives on 2+
rear guard: arrives in turn 2 on 1, and from turn 3 on on 2+
harrying units arrive on 4+ from turn 2 on
all remaining reserves are arriving on turn 6
for every harrying unit that is in reserve in the enemy’s preparation phase, you can make the enemy reroll one reserve roll
units from reserves are placed in the preparation phase in base to base contact with table edge (if not deep striking), if there is not enough space, placed back in reserves

Victory Points

both armies can collect victory points throughout the game, there are two ways: claim a kill, claim a mission marker at the end of the game turn:

Claim Kill:

every destroyed tank (not vehicle), walker, monstrous creature or independent character is a kill. Every squad leader that is killed is a kill (not counting standards, etc.)
Every kills gives one victory point

Claim Marker:

You check in your own preparation phase if you hold or control a marker. Opponent checks in his preparation phase.
You control a marker, if there is one of your scoring units in 3” of the marker and no enemy scoring unit. If you control a marker you get 3 victory points.
You hold a marker, if you don’t control it, there is one of your non-scoring non-vehicle units in 3” and no enemy unit. If you hold a marker you get 2 victory points.
You start in the preparation phase of the second going player in the second game turn. The player that goes first checks a last time at the end of the game as there is no preparation phase in turn 7.
Vehicles and shaken units are completely ignored. Embarked units only count if transport is open-topped.

Game length:

6 turns

Stratagems:

1 can place automatic turret
immobile BS 3 10/10/10
is equipped with twin-linked weapon
can choose one weapon, that an infantry model from FOC Troop can be equipped with
1 the first or last game turn is night fighting
1 can re-roll one outflanking roll and one deep striking scatter roll per turn
1 can block every psychic power on 6+ even if no psyker in 24”, psykers block on 4+
1 steal the initiative: if going second, roll at the start of the game a D6, on 6 you go first
1 own units use Ld 10 for pinning morale checks
2 one unit for every full 1500 points can get one of the following USR: Tank Hunter, Shielded, Fearless (1), Preferred Enemy, Relentless
2 decide during deployment if rear or flank guard: roll a single reserve roll for all units in chosen guard
2 Mine Field: makes one piece of terrain for every full 750 points dangerous
2 units of both forces that are holding or controlling mission marker have Overwatch USR
3 can make one non-vehicle unit upon deployment scoring
3 enemy deep striking units must subtract 6” from distance to enemy to see how they scatter
2 all weapons of one unit for every full 750 points have the Anti Air and Tracer rule
4 you can switch units from rear guard to flank guard until you roll the first reserve roll,
every unit can decide upon arrival which deployment method it uses: deep strike, normal reserve or outflank,
one unit for every full 1500 points per turn can change its deployment method to one it cannot normally be deployed with
4 All own units count as having surged or moved flat out before the game.
4 all own units are equipped with offensive grenades
6 all enemy units count as being in terrain in their first turn
6 all own units count as Veiled (2) in turn one
6 enemy rear guard and flank guard units roll like harrying units for their arrival
12 Pitch black: Night fighting with Veil (2) during the whole game
12 own units: weapons fired in 6” range count as twin-linked
12 enemy must re-roll successful cover saves
every stratagem can only be taken one time,
for every unspent point, once per game one roll may be re-roll, this cannot be the steal the iniative roll

Narratives rules:

- optional rules: apocalyptic weapons, super heavy vehicles (not much changed, but rules for damaged super heavies for small games), formations
- new deployment types, mostly taken from mission expansion
- new victory conditions
- rules for games with predetermined strategy points for both players
- three sets of additional stratagems: fortifications, deployment options, reinforced buildings
- special terrain: ruins, streets, hell rivers, deathworld mangroves, warp gate, sand pit, orbital landing platform, habitat block
- highly modular: you can mix deployment rule, victory condition, optional rules, available stratagem sets, number of strategy points to spent and special terrain: voila, you have your own mission
EDIT: Definitely have your salt licks on standby. I obviously can't verify any of this, but there it is.
Last edited by Zion : Today at 04:49 AM. Reason: Cleaned up post for sake of readability.

Gerüchte vom 19.06.2011:
http://www.gw-fanworld.net/showpost.php?p=2446421&postcount=637

Von BoK:
We, the gamers, are sitting on the receiving end of this dishonest policy once more. We are treated like children and that is exactly the goal of these changes. So here are some of their plans, as long as the info is available, to spoil some of their surprises:

* first 6th edition codexes, but release before or with rulebook, small release with single or two waves: Black Templars (1 waves: 2x plactic, 2x Finecast), Tau (1 wave: 3x plastic boxes, 4x Finecast), Necrons (2 waves)

* first real 6th edition codex: Codex Chaos Legions, really big release in three waves, doesn’t invalidate Codex Chaos Space Marines which gets extensive White Dwarf update as Codex Renegade Space Marines

* two starter sets, each with rules, dices, movement markers, mission booklet, one with Dark Angels and fitting scenery, the other with Black Legion and Chaos scenery.
You can combine both to play the campaign or use one set alone to play a selection of dumbed down scenarios against every other force, first starter set that comes with a model for a well established special character

* 6th edition is finished rulewise for some time now, the overall goal is to fix some of the long time problems of the game system. Expect a lot more fundamental improvements than last edition. The rules were even more ambitious at some stage of development, but didn’t get approved as they were too far away from the established rules.
The main designer left company and his successors brought the rules back in line with the existing codexes. The rules are nonetheless a bigger step forward than from 4th to 5th. Changes are so big that the next edition relies partial on erratas to fix old codexes. Development relied heavily on feedback of veteran playtesters. You can see some results of this new approach by the way the FAQs were handled in the last months. All codexes since Codex Tyranids were written with the new rules in mind, especially the new mission and reserve structure.


* The main design goals are: one book to rule them all, heroic characters, visceral combat, streamlined mechanism, cleaned up presentation and strategy before chance * strong narrative focus on Chaos, perspective shifting from the Empire to the struggle between free races and the Warp


* the biggest rule changes:

- similar ballistic to hit chart as wound chart: compare BS to target’s speed and unit type. BS 3 hits moving infantry on 4+, but lightning fast jetbikes on 6+ and stationary tank on 2+… HUGE

- victory points are back, but with another twist: you get two victory points if an unit holds an objective for an entire game turn, if a scoring unit holds one, you get three and one if you destroy a squad leader or vehicle

- before the game there is a bidding contest for the opportunity of the first turn, if you bid more strategic points you can go first, but the enemy can spent these points on stratagems as in Cities of Death: 22 generic stratagems

– for example for one point you can decide on night fighting or place an automatic gun, for four you can shift your reserves, most expensive stratagems are at 12 points and are really drastic, every unspent point can be used once a game for a reroll

- new turn sequence: prepare-movement-assault-shooting-consolidate new phase “consolidate” phase for random movements, jetpack movements, pursuits, morale checks/effects and resolving shooting reactions assault before shooting


* big units are real roadblocks! Some more examples for the development doctrines One rulebook for all:

- flyer rules are incorporated in the main rules

- narrative rule section that expands core rules: formations, super heavies, gaining experience


* modular rules, core rules can easily be expanded by narratives rules or another expansion set Heroic characters:

- independent characters more powerful, armour save and invulnerable save at the same time

- squad leaders more important, no more 50% rallying threshold, unit can rally as long as squad leader lives

- independent characters can snipe More visceral combat:

- standard cover only 5+ now, Feel No Pain (1) only on 5+

- slow slogging units very vulnerable


* some weapon types are specialized in taking out specific unit types and are incredible good at doing this (sniper vs. infantry without armour), but on the other hand ordnance vs flyer isn’t going to do much streamlined:

- no more random movement at all

- 5 general types of psychic powers

- wound allocation like 4th edition on unit basis, but attacker can chose every 5th wound to go to a single model (sniper weapon every second wound)

- artillery is normal immobile vehicle squadron, crew has no other game purpose than to be a counter for rate of fire and attacks clean up of combusted rules:

- there are tiers for most of the special rules. Instant Death (2) circumvents Eternal Warrior (1) for example. Feel No Pain (1) is 5+, Feel No Pain (2) is 4+ and Feel No Pain (3) is 3+. If no value is given, the special rule is tier 1.

- no more difference between leadership test and morale test


* terrain rules on a single page, true line of sight, non-vehicles models are ignored altogether, rules for special terrain like bunkers, ruins or deathworld mangroves in narrative rule section less randomness, more strategic options:

- more elaborate reserve rules, can nominate turn of arrvial and has only small change to arrive earlier or later, or can intervene behind enemy lines, arrives randomly but can hinder enemy reserves, must be distributed evenly between turn two and three, later arrivals only randomly

-no more random game length -no roll for first turn

-deep striking units more than 18” from enemy away don’t scatter, but landing in 6” is much more dangerous

- movement impairing effects from pinning weapons even if morale check is passed (if roll is above halved Ld), Fearless not immune to this, but only effected if rolled over full Ld

- more reactions to shooting than going to the ground depending on unit type and special rules. bikes can evade (3+ cover as same as before, but cannot assault or shoot next turn), jump troops can fly high, units with Stealth can attempt to vanish, …

Ok the ”Bombshell” I really need to use better wording…
”By the end of the next Olympics we will be treated to 6th ed Warhammer 40k”
Now thaGrey Knight Codex Q&A Limited Time onlyt is something that people that follow GW trends have suspected for awhile. So really that is not that earth shattering. What makes 6thed potentially earth shattering is the version of AoBR we will get. For the first time in a long time neither Xenos nor the Warriors of Roboute Guilliman will be featured. Nor will the Sledgehammer of the Emperor be chosen to fill the starter box.
What that means for all of us… we shall have to wait and see.
​

Quelle: http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2011/03/11/grey-knight-codex-limited-time-only/

 

[Red Dox]

For the first time in a long time neither Xenos nor the Warriors of Roboute Guilliman

Naja ist doch wurscht ob die SM inner Box keine Schlümpfe sind. Gibts halt ´nen anderen Orden, denn die Posterboys sind definitiv drinne. Aber keine Xenos? Da bleibt ja nich mehr viel...

2012 halte ich für ertwas arg früh. Bisher wars 6, 5, 6, 4 Jahre. Jetz wieder auf 4 Jahre reduzieren wäre imo ein schlechtes Omen.

-----Red Dox

 

[Darth Vanarius]

Marines gegen Chaos Marines...was bleibt da über..

 

[Edelmieps]

Komm nichtmal mit der aktuellen zurecht - hfftl. wirds nicht so eine Wende wie bei Fantasy. Wenigstens 40k sollte ein Strategiespiel bleiben...

 

[Armadus]

Schlechtes Omen, man könnte es auch einfach GW Verkaufspolitik nennen.

Und Verräter werdens wohl sein, könnte ja auch vlt. ein neuer Chaos Codex mit Verräter Impsen kommen. /Wunschdenken aus

 

[magnus95]

Vll ja Soros gegen Chaosmarines?
Aber es würde mich wundern,wenn keine loyalen Dosen in der Box enthalten sein würden

 

[Endijian]

Vll ja Soros gegen Chaosmarines?

das wär geil 😀

 

[drustran]

Imps vs Dämonen :lol:

 

[The Hivemind]

Ich sach ma Necs. Sind in dem Sinne ja keine Xenos mehr. Nur noch lebendes Metall. Und die gegen die Sis.
Nur mal ins Blaue geraten.

 

[Wadnbeißa]

CSM vs Dämonen

Die Götter haben uns lieber! Nein uns!! etc ^^

 

[The Hivemind]

LOL!!!:clown:

 

[Lordkane]

Ja und am Ende läufts warscheinlich doch auf Ultras vs Word Bearers hinnaus!

 

[drustran]

also wenn der Vorschlaghammer (sledgehammer) rausfällt bleibt doch nur noch der Amboss.... und das ist bekanntlich die Imperiale Armee...

Allerdings muss ich dazu sagen das ich diese Box mal interessant finde... wenn GW´s Zugpferd nicht enthalten ist.

2te Edition: SM vs Orks
3te Edition: SM vs DE
4te Edition: SM vs Tyras
5te Edition: SM vs Orks

Es wird Zeit für Abwechslung!

 

[Yee]

SM vs SM? 😀

 

[Magua]

Ich tippe auf CSM vs. SM.

Und endlich werden alle Nicht SM Codices zum Codex: Not Marines zusammengefasst.

Fahrzeuge werden wieder Todesfallen und die Punktkosten weiter gesenkt.

 

[Stingray]

Wer glaubt, dass in der Starterbox keine Space Marines sind, ist fürchterlich naiv. Da ist es realistischer dass gar keine Starterbox erscheint als eine ohne SMs.

Eine 6. Edition soll ruhig kommen. Dann zocke ich vielleicht wieder 40K. Mit der Fahrzeugkonzentrierung, Kill Points und No Retreat Blödsinn bin ich nicht wirklich motiviert, mich da zu engagieren.

 

[Moiterei_1984]

GK´s gegen Dämonen? Wäre zumindest interessant... und nachdem hier ja lediglich die Rede von den Söhnen Guillomes ist, was mMn nur die Vanillas betrifft, auch u.U. gar nicht mal so abwegig.

 

[Sorgenkind]

Imps gg Chaos ist mein Tipp 🙂 Wobei ich jede Grundbox interessant fände in der keine Dosen sind 😛

 

[Kodos der Henker]

Space Wolves VS Thousand Sons

 

[Nudelsuppe]

Dark Angels vs Space Wolves.