Vanilla CSM und Legionen 2012

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#422
Voidraven schrieb:
Heisst Hard Cover das die so wie das Regelbuch im Momment ist werden ?
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So wie die Fantasy Armeebücher. Also eben Hardcover Codices.

Beim Regelbuch rechne ich mit der üblichen Veröffentlichungsform: großes Hardcoverbuch für 60 Euro plus x, kleines Softcoverbuch mit den Basisregeln in der Starterbox einen Monat später. Eventuell gibts noch eine Collectors Edition des Regelbuchs.
 
#424
Die neuesten Infoschnipsel von warseer.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5921830&postcount=414

i know allot of you have questions about individual units and legions, ill try to address them all, however there are limits on how much i can get away with,

ill say this there are havoc's for marked legions

though each legion will get something unique to them, from force organization to individual units to hqs, for example night lords n world eaters can only have 1 heavy support but get other boni

remember huron has quite decent kit, so expect something like a 2nd ed list for him. also, in some ways picking a legion will restrict you, there are allot of chaos characters already in fluff so expect most to return, plus a few new faces
whos the star of the show huh?... now that is something ill hold onto for a while
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#429
ghost21 ist eine der zuverlässigsten Gerüchtequelle bei warseer, er landet schon seit Jahren recht genaue Treffer, es stimmt zwar nicht immer alles zu 100%, aber im großen und ganzen lag er bisher immer richtig. Ansonsten kannst du ja mal die ganzen alten Gerüchtehtreads durchsuchen, da dürftest du sehen wie genau seine Infos bisher immer waren.

Woher er die Infos haben kann, da gibt es mehrere Möglichkeiten, entweder er arbeitet bei GW oder hat im Freundeskreis Leute die im GW HQ arbeiten, oder er kennt/ist ein Playtester. Also mögliche Infoquellen gibt es genug und er wäre schön blöd die offen preis zu geben.

EDIT: früher war seine Trefferate in etwa 50:50, in den letzten paar Dexen betrug sie ca. 70:30, also 70% richtig.
 
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#432
Wieso 3 neue? 2012 soll der Legionscodex kommen.
Via WD soll angeblich der aktuelle CSM Codex ein paar Updates erhalten und damit soll dieser Codex VuV sowie Mutanten und Renegaten abdecken. Irgendwann später einmal soll der Codex neu aufgelegt werden, vielleicht schon 2013 eher später. Und die Dämonen bleiben als eigenständiger Codex erhalten und werden auch erst nach 2012 neu aufgelegt.

Also ich sehe da insgesamt nur einen neuen Codex in baldiger Zukunft und 2 Überarbeitungen/Neuauflagen die noch längere Zeit auf sich warten lassen.
 
#433
Dark Eldar schrieb:
ghost21 ist bei warseer noch einmal auf die Anzahl der Bücher eingegangen. 3 scheint zu stimmen, aber nicht 3 Bücher mit je 3 Legionen, sondern eines für Dämonen, eines für Renegaten und eines für alle 9 Legionen.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5919640&postcount=331
In den nächsten Tagen dürfte er wohl noch einige weitere Infos raus rücken, da ihm schon einige Fragen gestellt wurden.
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Hast doch selbst geschrieben......aber vll hab ich auch nur daraus gelesen das es im Endeffekt 3 eigenständige Dexe werden und das sie durch den WD Updates erfahren werden hab ich wohl überlesen.
Und warum sollte das update durch den WD nicht innerhalb eines Jahres zuschaffen sein?
 
#434
Das habe ich so nicht geschrieben (also da3 komplett neue Dexe kommen sollen), ich habe geschrieben das unter diesem Link, ghost21 noch einmal auf das Gerüchte zu den "ominösen 3 Legions Dexen" eingeht, das von einer vollkommen unzuverlässigen Quelle aufgetaucht ist. Und wenn du dir den Beitrag in dem Link durchgelesen hast, müßtest du festgestellt haben das ghost21 dieses Gerücht absolut verneint hat.
Chaos soll in der 6. Edi 3 Dexe haben, wie in meinem letzten Post aufgelistet. Das ist der aktuelle Stand in dem alle zuverlässigen Gerüchtequellen übereinstimmen.
 
#435
Noch einmal ein paar Gerüchte von theDarkGeneral. Bisher ist er keine zuverlässige Quelle, daher sollte man die folgenden Punkte nur mit sehr viel Skepsis betrachten:

I mean there is to be a "scout unit", but no associated with the World Eaters.

And as Brother Dimetrius has already mentioned, Cypher indeed was a Chaos model, and appeared in at least one of our previous Codexes. Could that mean a hint at Dark Angels around the bend? I think that'd be very cool, especially considering they are the FIRST Legion...

*Nightlords: I don't ask much about them, though a lil' i have for my buddy Paul has around 25,000+ points of them...Hit & Run and Stealth for universal special rules, but possible counter attack (for elite unit) as well as jump pack troops.

*Possessed: FINALLY getting some love, and according to Legion, they will have upgrades either already included or that you can pay for.

*Word Bearers: Apparently getting a lil' extra attention, and besides Dark Apostles, new models for "daemonancers", which just might be unit champs/sgt upgrades. I'm not sure. BUT, their summoning of Daemons from the Warp apparently allows re-rolls on the scatter dice, as well as new mishap chart!

*Deathguard: Feel no pain and blight grenades for their Cult Terminators, new nasty flamers upgrades.

*Thousand Sons: AP3 bolters will be MUCH more useful under 6th Edition, and a couple new Psychic abilities, one of which (supposedly) can remove an entire enemy squad from the table on a failed stat test!

*Iron Warriors: Access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield termies, thunderfire cannon off-shoot, Havocs w/Tank Hunters and relentless for some squad...

*Emperor's Children: Lash is finally changed to be more in line with Daemon version. More heavy weapons upgrade count for larger units. Better Bikes? Not sure what that means...

*Alpha Legion: Lots of infiltrating abilities, outflanking, and even temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles...basically sneaky bastards!

*Black Legion: HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rules. __________________
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#436
Das klingt eher danach, was er sich so vorstellt was sein kann und nicht danach, dass es wirklich so sein soll ... also eher nach Wunschdenken/ "logisches" Denken, dass letztes nichts bringt hab ich bereits bei den GKs gesehen ... Wie zuverlässig ist diese Quelle ?
Außerdem erwähnt er die World Eaters überhaupt nicht ...
 
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#438
Viele "News":

It seems like the rumors coming for the future Chaos Legions book are just coming and coming. Perhaps this is because it is what people want, but it baffles me that we are not hearing more Tau and Black Templar (assuming they really are coming early next year).

Either way, I still love hearing new Chaos Legions rumors. They definitely will be my next "new" army.


Please take with the standard salt. Rumors are rumors until we have codex in hand.

theDarkGeneral
I'm glad ghost21 was able to confirm my early reply about Warsmiths and Dark Apostles, and World Eaters w/Bolters...

Here's more tidbits over a few shots of bourbon and some cigars...
*Chaos Dreads: No longer crazed or deranged, and new plastic (FINALLY) sprue to incorporate some new/old dreadnought close combat weapons types (chainfist, thunderhammer, power scourge, etc.)...but i'm more excited about being able to have Marked Dreads!!!

*Assault Berzerkers! Finally, Berzerkers with jump packs counting as Fast Attack!

*Slaughterfiends from Apoc will make their way into the Codex, along with versions for "Marked" type ones for other Legions.

*HQs making a return (lil' salt): Droomrider, Doombreed, Cypher , along with 5 newish guys.

*Unit size changes: Oblitz can come in up to 4, while most Daemon Engines can be 3 for 1...

*New Landraider: So we no longer have to suffer with just the old crumby one, has a higher capacity (15?) but is more of "warped" version of one of the Imperial versions.

*Force Org Chart: As ghost21 has alluded to, it won't change according to your Legion (HQs) as in swapping more Heavies for less Fast, but your access to units in those categories opens up, becomes limited, or closes off accordingly. Easy example I was given, is taking Khorne Daemon Prince means no Scouts...

I mean there is to be a "scout unit", but no associated with the World Eaters.

And as Brother Dimetrius has already mentioned, Cypher indeed was a Chaos model, and appeared in at least one of our previous Codexes. Could that mean a hint at Dark Angels around the bend? I think that'd be very cool, especially considering they are the FIRST Legion...

*Nightlords: I don't ask much about them, though a lil' i have for my buddy Paul has around 25,000+ points of them...Hit & Run and Stealth for universal special rules, but possible counter attack (for elite unit) as well as jump pack troops.

*Possessed: FINALLY getting some love, and according to Legion, they will have upgrades either already included or that you can pay for.

*Word Bearers: Apparently getting a lil' extra attention, and besides Dark Apostles, new models for "daemonancers", which just might be unit champs/sgt upgrades. I'm not sure. BUT, their summoning of Daemons from the Warp apparently allows re-rolls on the scatter dice, as well as new mishap chart!

*Deathguard: Feel no pain and blight grenades for their Cult Terminators, new nasty flamers upgrades.

*Thousand Sons: AP3 bolters will be MUCH more useful under 6th Edition, and a couple new Psychic abilities, one of which (supposedly) can remove an entire enemy squad from the table on a failed stat test!

*Iron Warriors: Access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield termies, thunderfire cannon off-shoot, Havocs w/Tank Hunters and relentless for some squad...

*Emperor's Children: Lash is finally changed to be more in line with Daemon version. More heavy weapons upgrade count for larger units. Better Bikes? Not sure what that means...

*Alpha Legion: Lots of infiltrating abilities, outflanking, and even temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles...basically sneaky bastards!

*Black Legion: HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rules.


via Ghost21
there are downsides to chaos units, nurgle cant do sweeping advances(i think thats what there called, n are stoic ), khorne has to engage in some kind of combat every turn or suffer a d6 result, tzzench (sp, ooooh i hate that word)are mindless automatons, who need a command figure or suffer a d6 result to guide there actions, and slaanesh well lets say they have very harsh results

as ive said, it will probably be the first or second 6th ed book, 6th ed is slated for jully i think (but also i have bb then... so i dunno), so anything upto 4 months after that (n this is the Legions book, not the renegades)
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Quelle: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2011/11/chaos-legions-continuous-rumors.html
 
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