Diskussion - Space Wolves Codex 2014 oder 2015?

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Es gibt eine Menge Informationen zum Space Wolves Codex:

via Little Bird on Warseer

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?397904-Codex-Space-Wolves-Information

Keep in mind: My source only had a few minutes alone with the book, and there is an enormous amount of information in a codex, so they couldn’t get everything. If anything more makes it to me, I will edit the OP.

General Information about Codex: Space Wolves
Sagas are out, replaced with Warlord Traits
6 new Space Wolves Tactical Objectives
New Space Wolves Psychic Discipline: Tempestas (Source didn’t get any actual rules though)

‘Space Wolves Unleashed’ Detachment FOC:
Identical to standard FOC, except may take up to 6 HQs
May re-roll Warlord Traits
Each unit joined by an Independent Character rolls a d6, on a 6+ that unit gains Outflank. Troops choices get +2 on this roll.

Great Company Formation:
1 Wolf Lord
1 Wolf Guard Battle Leader
1 unit of Wolf Guard
5 units of Grey Hunters
1 unit of Wolf Scouts
5 units chosen from [Blood Claws, Swiftclaws, or Skyclaws]
2 units of Long Fangs
Grants two special rules, source did not get them

Space Wolves Relics (Source didn’t get rules, just name and type of item)
Armor of Russ (Armor)
Bite of Fenris (Bolter with two fire modes)
Black Death (Frost Axe, Rule: Whirldwind of Death)
Helm of Durfast (Wargear)
Fangsword of the Ice Wolf (Frost Sword)
Wulfenstone (Wargear)

Logan Grimnar – Lord of War
Epic new model, comes with a sort of grav-chariot called ‘Stormrider’ pulled by two enormous Fenrisian wolves, but he can be used without it as well.
Stormrider
Treated as a vehicle, didn’t get AVs, has a 4+ Invulnerable save and cannot suffer Penetrating hits (all Pens are reduced to Glances).
Gives Logan 4 S5 Ap- attacks on a turn when he charges.
Logan loses Deep Strike if he takes Stormrider
Lots of other cool rules, but didn’t get those.

Njal Stormcaller
No new model shown in codex
Looked to be mostly the same, no specific information

Ragnar Blackmane
No new model shown in codex
Also looked to be mostly the same, no specific information

Ulrik the Slayer
No new model shown in codex
Also looked to be mostly the same, no specific information

Canis Wolfborn
Again, looked to be mostly the same, no specific information

Harald Deathwolf
The resin Thunderwolf Cavalry character model assigned a name
Didn’t get the rules/stats.

Bjorn the Fell-Handed
Epic new plastic model, part of a box that makes a regular SW Venerable Dreadnought, Bjorn, or a new special character Dreadnought named ‘Murderfang’.
No longer becomes a VP objective when he dies.

Wolf Lord
Mostly the same, no specific information.

Rune Priest
Mostly the same.
Specifically noted as starting at Mastery Level 2.
No other information.

Wolf Priest
Mostly the same, no specific information

Wolf Guard Battle Leader
Mostly the same, no specific information

Blood Claws Pack
Wolf Guard Leader upgrade available
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport
No other information

Lukas the Trickster
No specific information, probably the same.

Grey Hunters Pack
Any model may add a Close Combat Weapon for +2 points
One Special weapon per full five models still, but costs raised to same as C:SMs
Wolf Guard Upgrade available
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport
No other information

Dreadnought
Not sure, but might have an option for a Helfrost Cannon
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information

Murderfang
Crazy-awesome special character Venerable Dreadnought
Wolverine + Dreadnought + Extra Insanity = Murderfang

Wargear:
Searchlight
‘Murderclaws’ with underslung Storm Bolter and Heavy Flamer
Special Rules:
Furious Charge
It Will Not Die
Rage
Rampage
Murderlust
Options:
May take a Drop Pod
‘Murderclaws’ – A pair of enormous, even for a Dreadnought, Lightning Claws made of ‘alien ice that never melts or loses sharpness’
S7 AP2 – Melee, Master-Crafted, Shred, Specialist Weapon

Venerable Dreadnought
Definitely has an option for a Helfrost Cannon
Can also have an enormous Power Axe and Storm Shield, said to look incredible.
Some special rules, but didn’t get them

Iron Priest
No new model shown in codex
Options appeared to be nearly identical to old codex,
Can take a unit of 1-5 Servitors, rules also looked the same as old codex
No other information

Lone Wolf
Rules nearly identical to old codex, didn’t get points cost
Owning player no longer gains a VP if they die
No other information

Wolf Guard Pack
This unit is just for Wolf Guard in Power Armor.
Have a similarly wide array of options as in the old codex, couldn’t get specifics though
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport

Wolf Guard Terminator Pack
What it says on the tin, Wolf Guard in TDA
with Storm Bolter and Power Weapon base
Options (any model in the unit can take these, this isn’t all of the options though):
Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
Pair of Wolf Claws
Power Fist
Frost Axes
Frost Sword
Combi-weapon
Heavy Flamer
Assault Cannon
Cyclone Missile Launcher
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport

Arjac Rockfist
Mostly the same, no specific information

Wolf Scouts
Source totally forgot to look at them. Sorry guys.

Swiftclaw Pack
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information

Skyclaw Assault Pack
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information

Thunderwolf Cavalry
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information

As noted previously:
Stormwolf – Fast Attack
BS4 – F12 S12 R12 HP3 – Vehicle (Flyer, Hover, Transport)

Wargear:
Twin-linked helfrost cannon
Twin-linked lascannon
Two twin-linked heavy bolters – May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas
Ceramite Plating

Special Rules:
Assault Vehicle
Power of the Machine Spirit

Transport:
Transport Capacity – sixteen models
Fire Points – none
Access Points – One ramp at the front of the hull

Stormfang Gunship – Heavy Support
BS4 – F12 S12 R12 HP3 – Vehicle (Flyer, Hover Transport)

Wargear:
Helfrost destructor
Two twin-linked heavy bolters – May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas
Two Stormstrike missiles – May be replaced with a twin-linked lascannon
Ceramite Plating

Special Rules:
Power of the Machine Spirit

Transport:
Transport Capacity – six models
Fire Points – none
Access Points – One at rear of the hull

Helfrost cannon
dispersed – R24″ S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Blast
focussed – R24″ S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost

Helfrost destructor
dispersed – R24″ S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Large Blast
focussed – R24″ S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Lance

Helfrost – If a model suffers one or more unsaved wounds from this weapon, it must pass a separate Strength test for each wound suffered or be removed from play

Land Speeder Squadron
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Fenrisian Wolf Pack
Nearly identical to old codex, no specific information

Long Fangs Pack
Couple of new options for squad leader, who is now called a ‘Long Fang Ancient’
Source did not get if they had an option for Flakk Missiles
Might be able to take a Stormwolf/Stormfang as a Dedicated Transport, not sure about this though
Otherwise nearly identical to old codex, no other information

Predator
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Whirlwind
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Vindicator
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Land Raider and variants
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Rhino and Razorback
No Helfrost Cannon option for the Razorback, same as Codex: Space Marines

Drop Pod
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Notable Exclusions from Codex: Space Marines
No Stormtalon
No Storm Raven
No Hunter or Stalker
Space Wolves AA options: Stormwolf, Stormfang, ADL gun emplacement, and Allies

Wer eine Übersetzung sucht, der darf gerne auf meinem Blog vorbei schauen.
 
Ich möchte mal auf den "seitenlangen Shitstorm" hinweisen, den ich mir aufgrund dieses Posts eingefangen hatte 😀

Der ist aber äußerst amüsant zu lesen 🙂
Und die Folge des ganzen ist, dass ab jetzt bei jedem neuen Codex die wildesten Ideen in den Raum geworfen werden, weil sich keiner mehr traut das anzuzweifeln 😉
Neues Totschlagargument: Wolfsstreitwagen
 
Was mich bei dem Wolfstreitwagen immer noch skeptisch macht ist: GW bringt da eine teures eigene Großmodell für eine LoB-Auswahl (von der sie selbst wissen, dass es in vielen Spielerunden im Zweifel nicht zugelassen wird um Disskusionen ober Titanen, Lynx und Ober-C'Tan-fragment vorzubeugen) heraus ohne eine alternative Zusammenbaumöglichkeit für z.B. U-Slot mit Freezcanons drauf o.ä.?


Ich Hätte bei einem Solchen Buasatz eher mit 3-4 Zusammenbauvarianten gerechnet (über die sich ein hoher Preis und "jeder braucht den mindestens" 3x) rechtfertigen ließe - so Grimmnar only erstaunt mich das hingegen schon...
 
*hust* kenne zwar noch nicht das siebener Regelwerk, aber wenn jede Armee ne "supertolle" Einheit für einen derzeit noch 'umstrittenen' Slot haben wird, werden die Stimmen gegen diesen Slot bestimmt leiser - zumindest könnte GW genau darauf spekulieren.

Im Zweifelsfall muss man (aus dem neuen Bausatz oder ohne ihm) ne passende 'normale' Logan-Mini basteln.
 
Oder man kann über eine Hausregel vereinbaren, dass die nach wie vor als normales HQ zählen, wie bisher auch.

Da würde ich mich ganz klar haben, warum ein mächtiges Modell zulassen, nur weil es in der Historie in nem Codex drin war, andere aber verbieten? Da kann man es handhaben wie es per Regelbuch gedacht ist, man einigt sich mit seinem Gegner über Beschränkungen, wenn der Gegner seinen Stampfa möchte, dann darf er auch den spielen.
 
Da würde ich mich ganz klar haben, warum ein mächtiges Modell zulassen, nur weil es in der Historie in nem Codex drin war, andere aber verbieten? Da kann man es handhaben wie es per Regelbuch gedacht ist, man einigt sich mit seinem Gegner über Beschränkungen, wenn der Gegner seinen Stampfa möchte, dann darf er auch den spielen.

Genau. Nur dass nen Superheavy bei uns hinstellen für "gegenseitige garantierte Auslöschung" sorgen würde. Bei uns hat fast jeder mindestens ein solches Ding.
 
Ein Wulfen in einem Dreadnought?!? Langsam wird Dreadnought sein auch bei den loyalen Marines anscheinend immer mehr zur Strafe. Bei CSM nix Neues, dann sperrten die Blood Angels auf einmal überlebende Todeskompanisten in Dreadnoughts und nun auch die Space Wolves einen überlebenden Wulfen. Nur noch Besessene, Verrückte und Wahnsinnige unterwegs in den wandelnden Metallsärgen... Tststststs...

Gruß
General Grundmann
 
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