Kann mir villeicht kurz mal jemand das mit den successor chapter erklären Blick es glaube ich nicht.
Die black Templar sind ja ein susccesor chapter von if oder? Bwas bekommen sie dann?
RAW im Moment das Supplement in Faith and fury UND die Sonderregeln des Imperial Fists Supplements da beide Bedingungen erfüllt werden.
Aber hier mal eine Zusammenstellung (auf englisch) von mir zu den neuen Regeln:
WL-Traits are weak. 2 seem to be okay but not that strong
- 6" Heroic Interventions
- +1 on charges and advance bubble
- deny the witch as a psyker
- always fight first (so god damn stupid)
- MW on each unit in 1" if charged or made a heroic intervention
- ap increases on 6" bubble in Close combat
lithany talble is very weak except one (5+++)
- 5+++
- always fight first (aaaarrgghhhhh why GW, WHYYYYY)
- reroll 1 to wound in Close combat
- minus 2 on leadership characteristic (mehhhhhhh)
- +1 attack if charged or heroic interv.
- +3 Aura abilite (again BS)
Charakters are better then before (except that the emperors Champion cannot take "Champion of humanity" any more)
- Helbrecht got +1 attack and his bubble is for the unit of that models within 6" not for those models only. reroll all hits. must take the WL-Trait to get +1 to Charge and advance
- Grimaldus still have the "exploding 6s" rule and can take 2 lithanies of the SM or BT lithany table - can deny one (with his WL-Trait two) tests
He is the winner in this Supplement so far (not must take but now viable)
- Cenobites dont make our Units fearless but still cost 2 Points each (must take) 5+ against mortals are 4+ with them
- Emperors Champion (must take oathkeeper - 6" heroic interventions) get -1 to hit in Close combat and +1 attack
- Crusader Squad, same cost as before and no MSU shooty things are allowed anymore. But if there are at least the same number of iniates as Neophytes the Neos can reroll 1s.
The Stratagems are very good so far. Confusing that our Scout Squads are now very very strong^^
(not the neophytes of a crusader squad - except the stratagems they got nerfed and still more expensive then tacticals)
-reroll wounds with Scout Squads in melee for just one CP
-4+ deny the witch (after any other try to deny) one CP
-charging out of a LRC -> no overwatch and enemy get -1 to hit in Close combat
- each saving throw of 6 the enemy suffers one mortal wound - 1CP
- after advancing its allowed to shoot with Pistols and charge
- 2CP the enemy cannot leave Close combat (just on Infanterie - but Fly still cannot leave)
- 6" for pile in and consolidate (very good in combination with the two before)
- Relics for Sword Brethren/Seargents
Some of our
Relics are interesting but nothing is a must take or as good as the relics of the first founding chapters
- to speak a lithany ---> 2dice and discard the lowest
- increase Aura-range +3 and one unit in 6" can taken into Assault doctrine
- 4++ for one battleround in 3"
- after a psyker cast a psychic power, he get d3 mortal wounds
- the relic sword (+1Str and 3Dmg)
- a weapon which can snipe witches
There is no sentence which dont allow us to take the IF Supplement too. So Assault Terminators seem very strong with the Stratagem which gave +1 on saves - so we can move, run and Charge with Helbrecht we get +1 on Charge and advance move and can consolidate 6" and hold enemies tight.
Cannot saying anything of the fluff. No models.
I would say that some of those Stratagems work for Intercessors very good too. But I see a lot of Scout lists^^
3 Invicor Suits and 60 Scouts in 9" from the enemy in first round .... seems pretty hard.
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Kann mir villeicht kurz mal jemand das mit den successor chapter erklären Blick es glaube ich nicht.
Die black Templar sind ja ein susccesor chapter von if oder? Bwas bekommen sie dann?
Also man kann ein Supplement (hier Imperial Fists) nutzen wenn man einen bekannten Successor (laut Fluff) oder einen ausgedachten Successor (mit 2 Chapter Tactics aus dem Pool im Codex oder mit "heritage of the primarch" - die gleichen Regeln wie Imperial Fists) wählt. Oder eben jenen Orden.
Bei den Black Templarn ist dies der Fall. Jedoch haben diese nun auch ein eigenes Supplement bekommen welches aber nicht ausschließt das man nur die Regeln eines Supplements spielen darf.