Vanilla CSM und Legionen 2012

6-Termi-Raiderkapazität reichen für Chaos völlig, und dabei muss nichtmal der Fluff vernachlässigt werden:

Slaanesh: Passt!
Nurgle: Kollateralfäulnis, bis es passt.
Khorne: Sperrt mehr als 8 Berserker in nen Raider wenn aussen die Schlacht tobt und es werden eh nicht mehr als 6 überstehen -> passt!
Tzeentch: Der große Wandler tarnt sich als einer seiner Götter'brüder' -> passt!
 
Ja, das fürchte ich auch.
Im Juli die 6., August was für Fantasy(die haben diesen Monat schon nichts bekommen) und im September die Starterbox.
Das hieße das frühestens im November der nächste Codex kommt, und irgendwann um November Dezember ist noch Hobbit-Zeit.
Da GW im dezember eigentlich nichts neues auf den Markt schmeißt hoffe ich darauf das der Hobbit erst im Januar kommt, dann wäre platz für einen(1!) Codex dieses Jahr.
Ob jetzt DA, CSM oder Tau wäre mir relativ Latte, ich habe auf alle drei Lust.
 
Eben auf 40kings entdeckt:

via Faeit212 zum Chaos Landraider:
via atraphos
Further rumors – in around 2 months time we should see 6th and the following month the CSM Dex, building on the CSM released in the 6th starter.
A double month of CSM coming up soon.
My source supports the CSM HQ being the stat or force chart changer theory that has been rolling around, but as he hasn’t seen the rules I guess he is simply speculating on reverb.
Unlike when he received the Nid codex a month and a half early, nothing of that sort is out yet for 6th or CSM. If the books and dexs have been printed already, they are still under wraps and heavily guarded, probably with overwatch in full effect.
via theDarkGeneral
According to my contacts, we’re about 2 months away from a Chaos Invasion, so let the galaxy tremble!!!
New Land Raider: Transport Capacity 15 or 16 models. Name is still not known
via Warseer zum neuen Codex Chaos:
by Dark Primus
The Chaos Codex is written by Phil Kelly
Chaos Cultists can be taken in squads of 30
Named characters gives the Cultists special abilities.
by Grant
Also mates, since I’m posting I may as well add a snippet or two more to the firestorm…
Rhino’s have 3 hull points, Landraiders and the defiler have 4. Any damage chart result other than wrecked or explodes will take 1 hull point away.Chaos units that kill a unit get to roll on a chart for gifts from a chaos lord very similar to the power from pain rule that Phil gave to DE.Thousand sons are still relentless and still have ap 3 bolters.

via Faeit212 zum neuen Codex Chaos:
Chaos Space Marines
Release Date:
dates for release vary from August to Sept-Oct
via atraphos
Further rumors – in around 2 months time we should see 6th and the following month the CSM Dex, building on the CSM released in the 6th starter.
A double month of CSM coming up soon.
My source supports the CSM HQ being the stat or force chart changer theory that has been rolling around
via Tastytaste
Sept-Oct Chaos Space Marines
The Chaos Space Marine codex is the only 40k codex for this year. It is not going to be divided into two codexes or anything special. This is not the return 3.5 codex everyone has been wanting this is more a clean up than anything else.
Troops choices will be Chaos Space Marines and Cultists
All Cult Marines are Elites
No new Special Characters
Special Characters will unlock Cult Marines as troops (Kharn for Berserkers and so on)
Typhus makes Cultists into Zombies
Chaos Dreadnaught is removed and replaced with a new unit (like how pariahs were replaced with Lychguard)
CSM now get a Flyer a Mechanical Chaos Dragon (model is done will be part of initial release)
Lesser and Greater Demons are gone
Spawn replaced by “Fell Beast”
Rules for Traitor Guard are in!
Oblit options will be even more expansive with close combat load out available.
via Bigred on BOLS
Codex author is Phil Kelly
Chaos Cultists are available in blob squads into the thirties…
Certain Named Characters grant various USRs and other special rules to Cultists when selected.
-The “flying dragon thingy” is coming. It is a flyer and one of two entirely new units added to the codex.
-The second new unit is said to be a Chaos answer to the Grey Knight Dreadknight.
-The Chaos Dreadnought is indeed still there (take a breath people), but gets a new name, and a rules overhaul.
-Hardcover book (just like Fantasy army books)
via Grant
Imagine a dragon made of “fire” and coverd in a platemale armor and you won’t be too far off. That is the best discription I can give.
Some of the concept art shows it mauling a valkyrie mid flight. It is pretty cool.
Chaos units that kill a unit get to roll on a chart for gifts from a chaos lord very similar to the power from pain rule that Phil gave to DE.
Thousand sons are still relentless and still have ap 3 bolters.
The codex is a full color hard cover book.
There are no legion rules
you can do is unlock certain elites as troops with specific special characters.
Ahriman is a psyker mastery level 4 now.
via MrSteelfist
Only a little rumour i picked up at Warhammer World but i’ve heard mention that there will be a Techmarine type character, not sure if this is a SC or just a HQ choice though.
I just recalled being told that there would be a smaller demon engine that operated in a “pack” but isn’t Brazen Knights. This may bestudio people just throwing some falsehoods out there to mess with us but thought it worth mentioning.
via BramGaunt
heard Special characters such as Kharn, Ahriman etc unlock unlimited Cult units as Troop choices, but generic HQ choices with a mark allow one appropriate Cult unit as Troops (similar to Ork Warbosses and Nobz). He also said he’d heard Chaos players will need to nominate one HQ selection as the army general, and that one will determine which Cult units become troops. No taking Kharn and Ahriman and getting bothe Berserkers and Rubriks as Troops
via Stickmonkey
plastic Chaos drop pod could be in the works, but tempered that by saying we probably wouldn’t see it any time soon. Whether the kit is released soon or not, there could be a chance of the rules appearing in the Codex though
via Darnok from February 2012
painted versions of all four Cult Terminators have been sighted, but they could have been conversions. These could have been made with the sprues other rumours have mentioned.
codex is done and almost at the printers
Ich hoffe doch, dass auch normale HQs Kulttruppen für den Standard freischalten können.

Die Beschreibung des 'Drachen' schockt gewaltig! Ich glaube aber auch, dass Kelly sich da durchaus was bei gedacht hat. Fragt sich nur, wie die Minidesigner das dann umgesetzt haben.

Die Dreadnought Umbenennung kann ich nicht ganz nachvollziehen (weil irgendwie unnütz), aber mal schauen was der Fluff da sagt.

Auf die Kultisten bin ich mal gespannt, immerhin gehts hier um Chaos Marines.. bzw. gings mal. Zum Chaos übergelaufene Imp-Regimenter sind ja prima, aber Chaos Marines, die Kultisten mitschleppen, sind komisch.
 
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Zum Chaos übergelaufene Imp-Regimenter sind ja prima, aber Chaos Marines, die Kultisten mitschleppen, sind komisch.


Ach ja? Warum?

Ehrlich gesagt entspricht das viel eher meine Vorstellung vom Chaos also eine reine Chaos Space Marine Armee.

SM sind nun mal keine normalen Menschen und die Fallen auch nicht einfach so an das Chaos. Und nach 10.000 Jahren dürften die VerräterLegionen mittlerweile schon bissal durch den Wind sein und nicht mehr so zusammenhängend. Also gibts da sicherlich eher jede Menge kleinere ChaosLords die ne Handvoll Marines um sich haben und jede Menge billige einfache Kultisten. Sein es gefangene die geistig versklavt wurden, Sklaven die bereits als Sklaven geboren wurden sind, Verräter, Verlorene, Verdammte...was auch immer.
 
Und dazu die Möglichkeit, über BCM (oder je nach Gerüchteposter auch HQ mit den entsprechendem Mal) diese in die Standardsektion zu verschieben.

Ich fände das nicht so schlimm, wenn man ehrlich ist, dann sind Seuchenmarines und Berserker an sich eigentlich fast zu gut für Standards.

Das war doch im Codex vor dem aktuellen auch so? Wenn ich ein Captain mit mal des Nurgle hatte waren Seuchenmarines nicht mehr elite, sondern standard einheiten.